Erine81981 said:
I just wanted to get credit for posting this Thread. I'm the one that kind of started this off. I just wanted to know If I have any say on some of the stuff that (that is if we get a good rep on this) I could help out on the Themes? I don't really care but since I'm the one to start off a Thread and then someone else to take over just isn't fare but thats just me. I'm proubley send something a tape to Buck that is if he has the stuff to get it on the Computer. I'll see what I can do w/ my and if my Bother-an-law has the stuff I might get him to help. I know I didn't begin w/ what were talking about now but I am the one that did start off this thread.
PS: I don't mean to take all the credit because (whoever answered my first post should be the one to take most of the credit as well as Buck. Please don't think I want credit but I do want to help as much as I can. Thanks and have a plasent day.
one more thing is it 30 seconds or minutes? I thougt someone said 30 minutes.
Erine, I don't think Buck was trying to steal your thunder, just enable your vision. I can tell you for sure that I wasn't. The true bottom line is the art itself: no one will win any prizes for this, but we can all participate and have fun.
And having a vision, as wonderful as that is, is not always what gets things done. There are dreamers, there are doers, and when the two hook up that's when things can really happen. Indeed, when you first proposed this I really couldn't see how it could be done until someone (Buck? I don't even know now) came up with the idea of a web-collaborative effort through video submissions.
But Erine, this is the essence of collaboration: someone starting off with an idea, someone else adding to it, others adding or subtracting until you end up with something that is far more than the sum of the parts: this is called synergism, and in the end in a truly great collaborative effort you can't even tell where your own contributions leave off and others begin. In other words, you submerge your ego for the greater good.
As for theme -- I threw an idea out there to advance the project, but I'm not married to it nor do I have a hidden agenda. I just want to get it going, and I've actually been involved in dozens of projects like these that die because no one is willing to step up to the plate. I thought Buck did just that, and now we need to move forward. If you want to suggest another theme other than "friendship" please do so right now, let's all get feedback and then let's DECIDE.
30 minutes is *way* too long -- I think Buck suggested 30 seconds (or maybe I did -- I dunno, doesn't matter to me :>) but it really needs to be fairly short. I would not under any circumstances want more than 60 seconds: it's a lot of video for Buck to deal with and longer actually makes it easier (and we don't *want* this to be easy -- we want it to be a challenge). If everyone thinks 30 seconds is too restrictive I'd vote for 60 -- but once again, the key is to decide and decide NOW -- because a week or two from now and the whole thing will die out if nothing has been decided.
Plus.. and this is big to consider... this is just a first pass. If it works, and we get some participation, we can always do it again, and the next version is likely to be even better. So I wouldn't worry about getting it exactly right just now, but worry about getting it started at all. On the next go around perhaps you'd like to host the site, or whatever, but let's just try this now and see what happens.
I believe you're also raising a good point (one Michelle spoke to) when you talk about sending Buck a tape. If there are many here who'd like to participate but don't have the equipment to digitize their videos, sending a tape would be a good alternative. I can't speak for Buck, but I'd be willing to help in this regard, since I have the equipment to do this if he doesn't have the time or inclination. At the moment I can't do PAL, so that's a limitation (and while I haven't checked I'm almost positive Canada is NTSC as well, which leaves Buck out) but we can probably work around that one as well.
My advice at this point is:
1) We need to finalize a theme in the next couple of days (my suggestion is friendship, but let's hear others if people want something else)
2) We need to decide upon the length of the video as well as the size in Quicktime or MPEG format (my suggestions would be 320x240 and 30 seconds in length)
3) We need to have an address (physical) to send videotapes to (either Buck or myself or someone else who might volunteer).
4) We need Buck to tell us when FTP access is available
So... everyone chime in on (1) and (2) and when Buck next visits I'm sure we can decide (3) (and it looks as if it might be a week or two before (4) is announced).
Fair?