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No Milk Chocolate in Chocolate Candy?

How does "no chocolate" in chocolate effect your purchasing decision?

  • A lot! I love Hershey's (or, at least I used to) I feel cheated!

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • None, never really ate Hershey's at all.

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • I only like some Hershey's products, so it doesn't matter really.

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • I am boycotting them and telling everyone about this.

    Votes: 2 13.3%

  • Total voters
    15

Fozzie Bear

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We all love chocolate (those of us who can have it, anyway). But, some of the most famous chocolate in the world is NO LONGER REAL chocolate! Yuck! In a world of fake products, must our beloved chocolate be fake, too?

Here is the link to the story—not even new news:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26788143/

By far, my favorite is Godiva (when I can afford it), or See’s Chocolate. More affordably I like Whitman’s.

On a similar topic, the past few packs of M&M’s I’ve opened no longer have blue M&M’s in them. Has anybody else noticed this?

Anyway, the link above goes to this story here:

Chocoholics sour on new Hershey’s formula
Former fans kissed off about replacement of cocoa butter with vegetable oil
By Laura T. Coffey
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 9:21 a.m. CT, Fri., Sept. 19, 2008
Oh, milk chocolate. Wherefore art thou?
Apparently not in some Hershey’s products that contained milk chocolate for years, and that has passionate chocolate aficionados fighting mad.
Products such as Whatchamacallit, Milk Duds, Mr. Goodbar and Krackel no longer have milk chocolate coatings, and Hershey’s Kissables are now labeled “chocolate candy” instead of “milk chocolate.”
What’s going on here? On Friday, TODAY consumer correspondent Janice Lieberman reported that Hershey’s has switched to less expensive ingredients in several of its products. In particular, cocoa butter — the ingredient famous for giving chocolate its creamy, melt-in-your-mouth texture — has been replaced with vegetable oil.
The removal of cocoa butter violates the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s definition of milk chocolate, so subtle changes have appeared on the labels of the Hershey’s products with altered recipes. Products once labeled “milk chocolate” now say “chocolate candy,” “made with chocolate” or “chocolatey.”
Some say the label changes are too difficult to spot.
“A lot of people don’t notice it. The package looks exactly the same,” said Cybele May, who has chronicled the changes in detail on her Candy Blog. “I feel betrayed by Hershey’s. They’re giving me an inferior product and they’re not even telling me …
“I call it mockolate, which is basically a fake chocolate product.”
Crunched by rising costs
In a statement, Hershey’s told TODAY that consumers love its products and all its candies are clearly labeled. It still offers real milk chocolate in Hershey’s Kisses, Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups and its classic chocolate bar.
“And recently it put back the milk chocolate in Almond Joy because consumers complained,” Lieberman said Friday in her report.
Experts say that while many manufacturers cope with higher costs by increasing their prices or reducing their product sizes, Hershey’s change was meant to be less noticeable to customers.
“Clearly food costs, commodities costs have been rising for some time now,” Harry Balzer of the market research firm The NPD Group told TODAY. “The real question is, how will they pass along these costs to consumers without hurting their profits?”
May said the recipe change has ruined the Hershey’s taste for her. But in a blind taste test conducted by TODAY, about half of the participants said they liked the new Hershey’s Kissables even better than the Kissables with cocoa butter.
Nevertheless, some taste-testers were alarmed to learn about the switch from cocoa butter to vegetable oil. One woman said she felt “kind of cheated.”
Fudging the standards?
In terms of calories and fat content, the change from cocoa butter to vegetable oil hasn’t affected the candies significantly. Nutritionists do point out that cocoa butter can offer health benefits — specifically by protecting chocolate’s antioxidant properties. What’s more, cocoa butter doesn’t raise cholesterol levels.
Last year, a number of industry groups lobbied for a change to the FDA’s definition of chocolate — a change that would have allowed cocoa butter to be replaced with vegetable oil. At the time, Hershey’s spokesman Kirk Saville told the Harrisburg Patriot-News that “there are high-quality oils available which are equal to or better than cocoa butter in taste, nutrition, texture and function, and are preferred by consumers.”
The proposed definition change caused a furor among chocolate connoisseurs, who sent hundreds of outraged letters to the FDA. In June 2007, the agency assured them that they had nothing to fear.
“Chocolate lovers need not be alarmed about the future of their favorite product,” the FDA said in a consumer update. “Cacao fat, as one of the signature characteristics of the product, will remain a principal component of standardized chocolate.”


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When the heck did good news die out? Everything has solidly been crap lately! And even when we do get goos news, bad news comes in and eats it all up...
 

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When the heck did good news die out? Everything has solidly been crap lately! And even when we do get goos news, bad news comes in and eats it all up...
I know, everything is so depressing, no wonder people are eating up 'reality' tv and think it is good now :stick_out_tongue:.
 

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Oh What the Frog! That's not chocolate! What is the world coming to?
 

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well.. hersey's was never really _good_ chocolate anyway... too waxy.. though i really did like whatchamacallit's... *sigh*
guess i won't be buying hersey's anymore at all anymore... they stink..
 

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I always liked Milk Duds, and recently they weren't as tasty, but I'd eat them anyway because I was always a fan. But, NOW they aren't real chocolate and I'm like, "Why do I want it anymore?"

So, what does people plan to replace their quick chocolate fix with? I mean, at least Hershey's syrup wasn't listed in that list, but I am going to check in my fridge and see what it says. It still makes good chocolate milk.
 

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not sure.. will have to poke around and check labels.. though, really, budget's going to be tight this next year while hubby's on deployment .. so.. this might help keep me on my diet.. heh... chocolate is always such a temptation.. especially in times of stress.. but.. if it's not real... well, then might has well save more money and buy the really cheap fake chocolates (heh..) or save up and splurge on really good chocolate less often...
 

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If I want vegitables, I'll eat vegitables!
:attitude: I mean, I like them, eating healthy and all that, but not mixed with my sweets, yech! Speaking of which, it's interesting how nutritionists say coco butter is actually healthier. Maybe they'll switch back eventually?
Does this only affect Hershey? I'm with Davina; never really was overly fond of Hershey. Some things, like kisses, I love, but I was always more of a Nestle fan.
 

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I knew this would happen! The Great Chocolate Conspiracy has finally come about. It will only be a matter of time now. Before the worlds destruction.


But seriously...that's just stupid. I'm for keeping chocolate as...Chocolate.
 

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If I want vegitables, I'll eat vegitables!
:attitude: I mean, I like them, eating healthy and all that, but not mixed with my sweets, yech! Speaking of which, it's interesting how nutritionists say coco butter is actually healthier. Maybe they'll switch back eventually?
... Vegetable FAT.... not even the nutritious part of the vegetable... Basically, an oil derrived from plants, say palm oil or corn oil.

They bulked the darn stuff up with Canola oil....
 
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