Next Muppet Movie

[Fozzie Bear]

I couldn't review it so badly, and I don't even really think I could watch it in huge quantities.

One of the things to keep in mind is that some folks who were raised in the 80's ONLY knew Muppet Babies, and that cartoon is what won them into the Muppets fandom. There really wasn't much else going on at the time (if I remember correctly) and folks like, my little cousin for example, was surprised when she saw The Muppet Show and actually asked me, "Why'd they grow them up?"

Same situation with kids who grew up on Ninja Turtles. Ever try talking to them about art history? Bring up certain names, and they start craving a chance to eat pizza and kick people!

Anyhow, there's some folks who think the 'canon' of The Muppets is told in The Muppet Movie and via The Muppet Show, and other stuff just kind of falls into place after that...if you can fit it in there somewhere. So, for those of us who need a story to further our enjoyment, we find the canon. For folks like you, Marky, it's the productions to enjoy. Ever'body's different.

 

[Marky]

I couldn't review it so badly, and I don't even really think I could watch it in huge quantities.

One of the things to keep in mind is that some folks who were raised in the 80's ONLY knew Muppet Babies, and that cartoon is what won them into the Muppets fandom. There really wasn't much else going on at the time (if I remember correctly) and folks like, my little cousin for example, was surprised when she saw The Muppet Show and actually asked me, "Why'd they grow them up?"

Same situation with kids who grew up on Ninja Turtles. Ever try talking to them about art history? Bring up certain names, and they start craving a chance to eat pizza and kick people!

Anyhow, there's some folks who think the 'canon' of The Muppets is told in The Muppet Movie and via The Muppet Show, and other stuff just kind of falls into place after that...if you can fit it in there somewhere. So, for those of us who need a story to further our enjoyment, we find the canon. For folks like you, Marky, it's the productions to enjoy. Ever'body's different.

Well said, Fozzie.

I just want to make it clear, if Ihaven't already...
I'm not knocking the show - it was cute. And the fact that it brought (and still brings) happiness to people is great. I didn't mind it back then (though I admit, I was getting to the age where I was more into action stuff than cartoons at the time).

IF they were to bring it back, however, I would almost insist that they use puppets instead of any type of animation.

 

[unclematt]

Well said, Fozzie.

I just want to make it clear, if Ihaven't already...
I'm not knocking the show - it was cute. And the fact that it brought (and still brings) happiness to people is great. I didn't mind it back then (though I admit, I was getting to the age where I was more into action stuff than cartoons at the time).

IF they were to bring it back, however, I would almost insist that they use puppets instead of any type of animation.

I agree 100%

 

[TheJimHensonHour]

Same situation with kids who grew up on Ninja Turtles. Ever try talking to them about art history? Bring up certain names, and they start craving a chance to eat pizza and kick people!

that's hardly true Fozzie I ended up becoming veru much into art and going to art school because of shows and comics like the ninja turtles as well as the works of jim henson and the people around him.

 

[Super Scooter]

One of the things to keep in mind is that some folks who were raised in the 80's ONLY knew Muppet Babies, and that cartoon is what won them into the Muppets fandom. There really wasn't much else going on at the time (if I remember correctly)

I know the Muppet Babies was, at the time, one of my only connections to the "classic" Muppets. This was the early ninties, and, sure, there was Sesame Street, but no Muppet Show that I could watch. Not even any Fraggles, really. Just Muppet Babies on TV. Other than that, I depended on videos. Still have 'em!

Same situation with kids who grew up on Ninja Turtles. Ever try talking to them about art history? Bring up certain names, and they start craving a chance to eat pizza and kick people!

That reminds me of something (off topic). When I was a kid, all my friends in kindergarten were big on Ninja Turtles, and they always said their favorite color was green because of it (kids are weird). I'd never seen the Ninja Turtles, but to fit in, I told them my favorite color was green because of the Turtles. Really, and obviously, it was because of Kermit. But all my "friends" thought that the Muppets were for babies, so I never told them they were my favorite. Five year olds saying this!!! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???

 

[CensoredAlso]

::shrugs:: I am sorry more people don't like Muppet Babies. It was a very clever cartoon, with historical, artistic and pop culture references. Very few cartoons have been as amusing and no cartoon has been quite as ambitious since.

And for the whole "not being canon" thing. I think Muppet Babies was a lot more canon than "Muppets From Space." At least the characters acted like themselves.

I'm not saying everyone needs to love the show. But its quality should still be acknowledged.

 

[Teheheman]

... YOU MUST BE OUT OF YOUR MIND. Cost of filming puppets vs cg - cg being cheaper???

Yes, eighties hit shows are remade, ad nauseum. But Muppet Babies was just a spin-off series of a musical number from the least successful Muppet film of Jim's run. It was a sub-product, not unlike the Yellow Submarine film - it wasn't really the Beatles.

Muppet Babies weren't puppets, and the voices weren't the real cast. It was just a simple cartoon based on the Muppets. I'm not knocking it, but that's all it was.

I think that the cost to make the puppets, secure the locations you would need to make it and the cost of the actors/actresses to make cameos, it would probably be cheaper to get an animation team together and make a 2D movie(since there are none of those around)
Muppet Babies weren't a spin-off of the musical number of MTM(which was a great movie btw) the musical number was based on Piggy's fantasy.
I know that they weren't puppets, and the voices weren't the real cast. But does that mean we have to forget about one of the most successful Muppet ventures of all time? Here's how it goes: Muppet Show, Muppet Movies(I count them all as one), Fraggle Rock, Muppet Babies. The only reason you put it animated is so you don't have to hire a whole new cast of people to do the voices. Just use the original cast. I'm sure that they aren't THAT busy.

Daniel

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Ha ha--wasn't this movie about "The Next Muppet Movie" where Gonzo spends the budget on opening credits?

Just kidding.

I agree with everyone, and in one case I should have said "some kids" when referring to the Ninja Turtles.

 

[Teheheman]

Ha ha--wasn't this movie about "The Next Muppet Movie" where Gonzo spends the budget on opening credits?

Just kidding.

I agree with everyone, and in one case I should have said "some kids" when referring to the Ninja Turtles.

Heck, that sounds like an interesting movie idea.

Daniel

 

[unclematt]

I think that idea could be a huge success but you have to have the right writers in place and I dont know if they are around right now.