Muppet Listings 8.0

[The Count]

Man! BlueAM, where were you buddy?!? As to the points in your previous post...

1 "Dullard Muppet" or "Dullard Anything Muppet", which would be best for distinguishing this character amongst the listings?
2 "Purple Guy" will finally be added to the listing, now that I know who he is.
PS: This was always a sketch I cherished back in the day when my sight was much better.
3 As for the Four Dragons... your descriptions were very good, cause now I could feasibly add them as "The Storyteller", "The Emperor", "The Emperor's Son", and "The Prime Minister" unless you were to have any objections to my including them like this.
4 I'd appreciate it if you followed up on issue #5 from my own previous post in this thread to see whether Deena and Gina both merit individual entries or not, finally settling that issue.
5 Still not sure as to whether I'll add an "Anything Muppets" and/or a "Whatnot Muppets" entry in the listings.

Hope you can understand, that you can help me out once again, and that you have a good night.

 

[BlueAM]

I'm back, Count!

First of all, thanks for all of your hard work--it's well worth it .
I would include ALL the unnamed AMs in one entry as "Anything Muppets" because on the Complete Henson Database, there is an entry called "Anything Muppets". The same goes with the Whatnot Muppets.

Also, I have some more characters to add. There was an SS skit called "The King Banishes the Letter P". These are ALL the characters in the skit. They are:

King Peter the Persnickity: He's blue, with balding black hair, black eyebrows, a black handlebar moustache and goatee, a little pink nose (kinda like Fat Blue), a crown and "king" clothes.

Princess Penelope: She's pink, with blond hair, a crown, and "princess" clothes.

King Peter's Pet Porcupine: He's either orange or pink, with spikes and a little black nose.

King Peter's Prime Ministers: The first one is green, with a big green nose, pink eyelids, orange hair and orange moustache, and "castle" clothes. The second one is orange, with balding brown hair, brown eyebrows, brown moustache, little light blue nose, and "castle" clothes, including a cape. The third one is green with blond hair, a little orange nose (kinda like Farley), and "castle" clothes.

King Peter's Royal Cook: He's the same AM as Guy Smiley, complete with the nose, hair, and eyebrows, and he has a black moustache and goatee, completely "closed" eyes with purple eyelids, and a wardrobe rivalling the Swedish Chef's.

Hope these descriptions help!

Also, do you remember what the hipster and dullard in the skit looked like since you said that you saw it when your eyesight was better? Thanks for your help, and have a good night!

BlueAM

 

[The Count]

Ah, my ever-faithful assistant BlueAM makes his triumphant return. Thanks for the new characters, they'll be added duely. Got a few questions/favors for you.

1 Where are you getting these extra characters from? I'd like to know so as to be informed as to your sources.
2 Where did you come up with the character known as the Count's Brother from? Was it from a sketch where the Count goes on a vacation and counts the good-byes from the rest of his family? If so, was there a character playing the roles of the Count's father, mother, sister, and family cow?
3 If you know them, any additional characters with their descripts would be welcome, like the story of the kingdom of K where subjects gather up all sorts of things and animals whose names start with the letter K.
4 Here's Favor #1.
Go to the following website: http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu...characters.html
Check and see if they've got pics of the characters next to their entries.
Check out the pic of both Deena and Pearl, both listed as one entry on that website, and the entry for Gina Monster amongst the SS Muppet characters. It was this site where I got the entry of Gina Monster from, since it has a separate entry for Gina the human as portrayed by Alison Bartlett O'Reilley.
5 On this same website, as Favor #2, check out the pic they've got for the entry of Angry Guy.
Compare that pic with the appearance of the "Dullard Muppet" and let me know the results of your comparisons.
Based on your comments on both of these favors, the decision would then be made regarding the four characters.
And thanks for your help and have a good night.
Oh, and if you like, you can post your reply here or send me an E-mail message with "Muppet Listings" in the subject heading.
Again, thanks and have a good night.

 

[BlueAM]

I'm baaaaaaaack, Count! Now to answer your questions:

1. Many of the characters I tell you about I hear about on the Web, see on video or TV, or in books. For instance, I heard about "The King Banishes the Letter P" on the "Learning about Letters" video.
2. I heard about the Count's Brother in a skit called "Measuring" that the Count did with Kevin Kline and Phoebe Cates. It's sung to the tune of "How About You".

Also, when will you update your list?

Thanks again, and have a good night!

BlueAM

 

[The Count]

Thanks for answering my last two questions BlueAM, your help is very valued by me for my listings.

And now, the response.
1 You ask when will I update my listings? Who says that I'm not updating them as we speak? The truth is that there are certain productions I'm chasing down at the moment before posting the next version of the listings. Here's what I'm looking for/already gotten:
a. Bear in the Big Blue House, provided by fellow forum member MuppetDude.
b. The Hoobs, provided by fellow forum member Luke.
c. Follow That Bird!, which I can't find at my local videostores and might have to purchase it online.
d. The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland, which I can't find in English at my local videostores and might have to purchase it online.
(Got a batch of characters from the listings of the cast posted at www.imdb.com, but I want to watch the movies to confirm those characters/actors and see if there are some more characters which that particular website left out.)
e. Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas.
f. The Christmas Toy.
g. Hey, Cinderella!
There are other specials like Tales of the Bunny Picnic, Big Bird in China and Japan, Don't Eat the Pictures!, and the Ghost of Faffner Hall, but these will be left for another updated version.
2 The other reason why I still haven't posted the updates is cause the numbering system denoting the total number of entries needs to be recalibrated. And rather than go through it multiple times with each of these productions, I'll gather everything up first and then renumber the whole thing once before moving on to the next version after that.
3 BlueAM, there's still a couple of favors I need to ask of you and I'm wondering if I should ask someone else to finally resolve the matter. The issue is the debate over Deena and Gina Monster and the Dullard Muppet and Angry Guy. If you could, please go to the website mentioned above and check out their listings to see if they have images of the characters next to the name of that entry. If so, go to the Sesame Street USA section and look at the image next to the entry of Deena and Pearl Monster, concetrating on the image of Deena only of course, and then look at the image of Gina Monster to tell if they're identical characters and settle the question of whether both should be included or if only one should be counted; and if so, which of the two should be discredited. And then do the same comparing the image of Angry Guy and the image you have of the Dullard Muppet to see if they're the same or merit discrediting one of the two; and if so, which one of the two should be delisted.
Please reply ASAP by posting here or via E-mail with an appropriate subject heading. Thanks for your help and have a Muppety day.

 

[BlueAM]

Ah, yes, my little Countadee, I'm back with more characters!

First, there was a skit called "Life in the City/Life in the Country". The skit featured a city boy who was green and, from what I've heard, looked A LOT like Jim Morrison, with the hairstyle and all that, lol, and a country girl who was lavender with yellow pigtails (I think) and overalls. If you wish to include these characters, I suggest you list them as "City Boy" and "Country Girl".

Also, there was a skit called "The King who Thought Firemen are Allowed". It featured:

The King: He's blue with a pink nose, balding brown hair, brown eyebrows, a little brown moustache, a crown and king's clothes.

The Fireman: He's orange with a big pink nose, balding brown hair, and a fireman's hat and uniform.

The Royal Doctor: She's lavender with eyelashes, a little pink nose, brown hair in a ponytail, and a doctor's uniform.

The Royal Postman: He's green with a light blue nose, brown eyebrows, a big brown moustache, and a postman's uniform.

The Royal Cook: He looks exactly like Guy Smiley except that he has a big black moustache and a chef's getup.

Then there's that skit told by Herbert Birdsfoot called "The Tale of Tom Tattertall Tuttletut". Here's who was in it besides Herbert:

Tom Tattertall Tuttletut: He's green with a light blue nose, white eyebrows, balding white hair, white moustache and beard, a crown, and medieval clothes. I'm not sure if this is what he looks like, but this is what I think.

The Queen: I'm not sure what she looks like, but she looks like a queen and is orange, I think. This is the best I can do.

Sadly, I'm soooo sorry to say that there are no pictures on that particular website with entries of different characters.

Also, did you see the skit with Snow White and the Six Dwarfs when you had your eyesight? If so, do you remember what Pokey (Jim, sounds like either Rowlf or Mahna Mahna) looks like? If you can, tell me what AM he is, nose color and shape, what his eyes are like, if he has eyebrows, what color his hair and beard are, and what his clothes are like.

Thanks to you, and have a good night!

BlueAM

 

[The Count]

Thank you BlueAM, and I'm glad to catch you online now.

Let's go over everything so far so that everything gets taken care of.
1 The characters from King Peter who Banished the Letter P, the King who Thought Firemen Weren't Allowed, and Tom Tattertale Tuttletut will be added in due course.
2 Tom Tattertale Tuttletut got added after Tommy's efforts (the Sesame Street Encyclopedia) to get images of characters and got wind of the record album with the Q, R, S and T songs/sketches from the Muppets Alphabet Album. See, all the songs on the Muppets Alphabet Album were released together as one record, and then subdivided and released on different records. And there's a picture of Herbert Birdsfoot and Tom Tattertale Tuttletut with the letter T on the Q-R-S-T album.
3 Sad to say, but no I never saw Snow White and the Six Dwarves when my sight was better. The only reason I added those seven characters and the reason I got the names of all six dwarves was cause I at least saw/heard the sketch while watching an episode of Unpaved on Noggin last year. So I can't rully give you descripts for those characters. Now as for the Jim Henson voiced character from the group, it sounded kind of like his frumpy voice, close to Harvey Fox from Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas but not exactly. Kind of like that but a little deeper like a duck's horn. Not sure if you understand what I'm saying but hope this helps.
4 As for the Dullard Muppet, me thinks he was the orange AM with an ovaled cylinder head and white balding hair curled up over his ears only. Possibly white hair over the ears and white eyebrows or not, oval vertical dark orange-brown nose, and brown buttoned-down shirt. Think that's right but not completely sure. Again, hope this helps and have a good night.
5 Oh and thanks, at least now I have an answer on whether or not that website had images for their entries. Gina will stay for now, maybe it's a character from Season 32 which we'll get to see on Noggin as soon as the real show on PBS goes to Season 35 next year.
Thanks for all your help and have a good night.

 

[BlueAM]

I'm bally back to see you and will bally well talk to you!

Forgive the Jeeves and Wooster reference, Count. I have to point out to you that on that website with all the Muppets listed, it says next to Gina's entry "Muppet; 'Gina play'". So I hope you now understand.

Time for me, I think, to let you add some two more characters:

Prince Charming's Lackey: He's green with balding white hair, pink eyelids, a pink nose, a white moustache, and lackey's clothes. He was in the News Flash where Kermit reports on Prince Charming finding Cinderella.

The Beautiful Princess: She's orange with eyelashes, blond hair, a crown, and princess clothes.

Now, I think I'll give you some descriptions.

Bennett Snerf: He's a blue AM monster with black eyebrows, fangs, and horns.

Arlene Frantic: She's a green AM monster with green fur on the top of her head.

Billy Idle: He's lavender with a pointy lavender nose (I think), blond hair, and punk clothes.

Hope these descriptions help, and have a good night!

BlueAM

 

[The Count]

Very good, my BlueAM. Ah, a few questions if you can answer them.
1 This Beautiful Princess you mentioned, from what sketch did she come from?
2 Gina Monster will stay for the time being, cause there's no confirmation on this character, and there's the possibility that she may have been from Season 32 which I still haven't watched any episodes of. My reasoning stems from the fact that the website in question lists Felix, a grouch who showed up in Season 31 and the Little Purple Bird from Paraguay who's real name is Fatima, also from Season 31. So until I see those Season 32 episodes and can clearly discredit or delist the character, she'll stay there but with a reminder to me as to watch out for the character.
Hope you can understand, and have a good night.
Oh, and since you're getting the vintage episodes and said so once, does Gina Monster look identically alike to Deena Monster? And was Gina Monster the same character, not just appearance-wise but character or personality-wise, as Deena Monster? Well, I'll let you go with this my friend and I'll inform you as to the dealings for the updates.

 

[BlueAM]

The Beautiful Princess was in the News Flash where Kermit reports on her choosing who she shall marry. It turns out to be Kermit, and, thinking he's really a prince, kisses him, and she turns into a frog.

Also, how about the "City Boy" and "Country Girl" I told you about? Will you put them on your list?

In the meantime, here are some more descriptions:

Fred the Wonder Horse: He's a brown horse with lavender eyelids, brown (I think) eyelashes, and a red mane.

Gilbert: He's blue with balding brown hair and sideburns, brown eyebrows, a big brown moustache, a small pink nose, a light brown top hat, and light brown Victorian clothes.

Sullivan: He's blue with light blue eyelids, a red nose, a white "George Washington" wig, a big white handlebar moustache, a dark blue (I think) cocked hat, and "HMS Pinafore"-type clothes.

The Wicked Queen (Snow White): She's green with a big pointy green nose, big yellow eyes (kinda like Cookie Monster), long gray hair, a pointy black hat, and witch's clothes.

Also, can you recall what the Purple Hipster looked like? Do the best you can in your description.

Thank you, and have a good night.