Miss Piggy & Kermit Strike Back at Fox News

[Bannanasketch]

Sorry gang (and you do rather sound like a gang)--I was not all all impressed with this whole debacle.

The Fox News review was dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. It missed on several significant points--first and foremost, that The Muppets is NOT just for children. But Fox's dumb review (did I mention it was dumb?) was NOT an excuse for the muppets to come out and make a political stand. It is hard to argue that the muppets don't have a political agenda when Kermit and Piggy are so obviously taking sides with whoever is on the opposite side of Fox News. I am ashamed of their behavior, and by it. I don't think for a moment that you'd catch Jim out there taking a large political swipe while claiming to be non-partisan. We were better than that once.

The review was lame-o from the get-go. It was stupid and irrelevant. But Fox News did at least have the courtesy to invite "the other side" (also lame-o) on to present their agenda. Both sides should be flogged for even participating in the stupid debate, but Fox did what they say they do--they actually presented their side and then let someone from the opposite side come on the show and present their opinions. (What was that? Fox News actually did what they said they would do? Call the other news agencies so no one can report on it!) Didn’t somebody say something about a “bully pulpit”? Doesn’t inviting the other side on to give their view sort of undermine that whole “bully” concept, or has the definition of bullying changed? And the other side didn’t think the debate was too stupid to take up the charge and start swinging, either. Honestly—can no one think any more?

Like it or not—agree with it or not—Fox News is watched by more people than any other network. Period. That’s not someone’s opinion. It’s a fact. And there seems to be a lot of whining about the fact that their successful at what they do, and popular for doing it. (Which was, ironically, what the stupid Fox News report accused the muppets of doing—surely you aren’t trying to prove them right?) Here’s a new flash: They don’t need your opinion or your approval to be successful or popular. These, too, are facts that can be supported with, oh, evidence instead of feelings. When, oh WHEN did feelings about things become more important than knowledge about things, and when did how someone felt about the news make it more or less true or documentable. I’ve yet to see a breaking scandal on another network that said Fox News got their facts wrong, but there is plenty of complaining about how mean they are. Good grief—grow up already. I just insisted that muppet fans are not all children and you’re making us look bad!

When Kermit and Piggy moved from defense of their movie (This is where they should have said, “Well, gosh, no-we weren’t saying ALL oil tycoons are bad—just the ones who are trying to tear down our theater by lying and cheating.) to defense of a political position (“Fox news isn’t really news because we don’t agree with it.”) then they crossed a line that I would have thought good sense would tell them not to cross.

Sheesh!

Agreed. Personally, I do feel that the Fox statements about the movie were completely idiotic and stupid. As a conservative myself, it embarrasses me to see that some on the Right would throw out these wild accusations. And yes, I felt that the Piggy comment was unnecessary. The Muppets have never been about politics and for Eric to make his views known through the character of Miss Piggy was a dumb move.

i disagree. fox is not a news network, it's a propaganda channel set up by roger ailes to promote conservative causes and should be called out as often as possible. it's a joke and what piggy said was brilliant

and by the way, quality is not determined by how popular something is. the transformers movies were very popular- they are also garbage. jersey shore and the kardashians are popular- they are also crap.

fox's ratings just tell you there a lot of old, angry white people out there who want their biases reinforced on a daily basis, with lies and misinformation. sorry, but it's true.

Really?!? I mean, seriously??? You throw out wild accusations and then expect us to just accept that as fact? You're just doing the same exact thing Fox did with the Muppets! You're own comment is full of bias not backed by facts, and IMHO, your last statement is a bunch of crap. Really, "sorry, but it's true"? No, don't try to take your own biased opinions and stereotypes ("old angry white people" HAH!) and present them as fact.

 

[zoebell]

no you didn't declare yourself, but judging by the defensive tone you seem to be taking about fox of all things, i assume you must be a fan of it. i don't know why anyone would defend that network otherwise

what wild accusations are you talking about? fox was set up by roger ailes to promote conservative points of view. that's the sole purpose of its existence. that's not unknown

and that's why eric felt piggy could say that and everyone would laugh knowingly. because it IS that widespread a view.

 

[Bannanasketch]

no you didn't declare yourself, but judging by the defensive tone you seem to be taking about fox of all things, i assume you must be a fan of it. i don't know why anyone would defend that network otherwise

I could care less about your opinion on Fox News! What's got me mad is the fact that you're taking your own biased and baseless OPINIONS and presenting them as fact. Using your own logic, you're just as bad as Fox! I'm not here to argue whether Fox News is good or not.

 

[zoebell]

what are you talking about? my opinion about what? what fox is?

all i've said is what fox is. and everyone KNOWS that, which is why piggy's comment got so much positive and knowing reaction. and obviously that's why eric felt he could have her say that and everyone would laugh and appreciate the snark

 

[Bannanasketch]

You are unbelievable. Since this argument is obviously not gonna go anywhere because of your closed mindedness, I'm just gonna leave you alone and not even reply anymore. Obviously, you're not prepared for a legitimate discussion. Get back to me when you're ready.

 

[zoebell]

i don't understand why you're so angry. really i don't. what is it that you're objecting to? closed mindedness about what, exactly? what fox is?

 

[Sgt Floyd]

Saying something is "wide known" or "everyone knows that" is not exactly sufficient proof to back up your claims.

Personally, I think it was funny, but still was kinda lowering Piggy to Fox's level...

 

[zoebell]

but why do you think eric did that? because he knew everyone would laugh appreciatively and get a kick out of it- because people know exactly what fox is and why it exists

that's the joke. and everyone got it. there wasn't any backlash to what she said, all the reaction was just like, go piggy!

 

[Muppet fan 123]

And that whole thing with saying the Starving Muppet on Sesame Street was a really bad thing was one of the really pathetic things about it.

 

[RedPiggy]

Personally, I think it was funny, but still was kinda lowering Piggy to Fox's level...

I disagree. Piggy would have to say the anchors on Fox News were spawns of Satan, allies to Muslims (because we all know they're all villains), and they may not have even been born in America (screw YOU, Hawaii!).
Piggy didn't spend hours and hours spreading misinformation, like arguing that running a hospital is the exact same thing as running a church. She made one snide comment.
Considering they take Sam back in the movie, I don't think it can really be argued that the Muppets are hardcore against Fox. If they were, they'd disown Sam.