It's Official: Series 9 & 10 Announced!

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Jamie, I know that CH Gonzo wasn't part of the regular lineup, that's why I said "one(s)". The thing is that I justify substituting Daredevil with Crash Helmet Gonzo in my mind whenever going over the S2 lineup, though I know the real score. And for the record, a few stylization differences in the penguins would be a good idea should they end up being repainted also.
Hope this helps and have a good night.
 

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frogboy4 said:
Where do these rumors get started? There is no plan to scrap either, but if there was a decision they'd pick the penguin. :zany:
Since anything is possible, I choose the worst case scenario... mainly because if something happens, I'll be ready... I'm always prepared. I wasn't a boy scout for 2 solid months in 1992 for nothing!
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it just seemed like 2 or 3 pack ins (depnding on how many Javas will come with Sal) is a little too good to be true. I'm sure that Ken and Co. can pull it off, but just in case, please keep el Penguino! :zany:
 

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Knowing Ken the java slinkies would go before the penguin. He *wants* to release penguins and strengthen the Sal pack. Seeing how simplistic and unarticulated the slinkies are, he won't likely scrap those either. And don't forget the veggies. Don't worry. We will get penguins. :zany:
 

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Chilly Down said:
Casual fans wouldn't remember Kermit with his banjo? Or Piggy on her motorcycle? I think Robotbuster Bunsen is far more obscure than that.
They are two of the more stronger show specific examples, of which there are very few left. If they dumped original themes for themed figures that appeared in just a few TMS skits then i'd say no. You are certainly entitled to just invest your money in show figures and I guess some people will do that. If you look at Robotbuster Bunsen though, he's got the whole Ghostbusters thing going on with his SuperSoaker. The average person browsing TRU is probably going to be more attracted to that than say MTI Bunsen. As Jamie said, it's just about balance - what doesn't appeal to one group will appeal to another and if they crossover that's a bonus. I'm not such a hardcore collector as most people here and the current mix strategy appeals to me more than just a straight run of show specific stuff. I tend to purchase more on what the overall figure sculpt looks like, my personal liking for the Henson character and what accessories there are included rather than buying because something was in a specific show ... although if that blonde penguin comes out I have a feeling i'll become a wholesale customer. :wink:
 

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Variants. I like them all but don't feel compelled to buy them all. I'm not excited about the ghost of samuel Arrow but I am excited about the regular Sam, kermits, Gonzos, Fozzie, Rizzo, Marvin Suggs, Sal, Jonny Fiamma, Rowlf, Scooter, Animal, Bunsen, Beaker, Pepe, Piggy and Janice.

At the end of the day nobody forces us to buy them. It's all a matter of consumer choice. You choose to buy or not to buy.

There's no point getting het up because a character hasn't been made yet. Maybe it will and maybe it won't ever get made. It would be impossible for Pallisades to ever make all of the Muppets in their different incarnations. It could all have stopped with signature versions of just the main characters and we'd never have got secondary or tertiary characters at all. Pallisades have tried to please the most people most of the time, the variants are sometimes a necessary evil to push the line forward with a retailer or they provide a cheap way to make something slightly different, show a different side to a character.

Muppetmania is a subjective beast. People will always differ on their opinions of who is hot and who is not, who should be made next and who should never have been made. Pallisades and Ken are merely jugglers trying not to drop the balls, adding in new ones and changing the colours to suit the audience as often as they can.

Jamie put this more succinctly, he always does **** him. :wink: but really, why complain when there really is something for everyone in this line? You can't have your cake and eat it because there's a whole big wide world of people out there to please.

Variants are good. In many ways. Looking for a variant makes people travel to different stockists or different webstores. It spreads sales around more evenly and increases the chances of retailers ordering more Muppets stocks.

Not only that but often the regular versions look a little plain in figural form and variants spiff some figures up, give them needed vavavoom!

Then there's costumed Muppets specific to theme, themes that keep building with passing waves like the steppin' out theme. I'd go so far as to call a playset anchored figure part of a theme and as such the labs and Electic mayhem and pigs in space grow. But without variants that wouldn't happen and it would be a far less interesting line to collect.

I count myself very lucky to have stumbled onto the Muppets when I did, to watch the line grow a while before buying any and now almost being up to date with all the releases. I was actually considering finding something else to do and just getting ready to throw out all my toys, I was bored and disappointed by the non interaction and corporate nonsense spun by other manufacturers, the toy quality control on lines i was collecting had seriously deteriorated and I just couldn't see a point in continuing to collect.

Then I bought my first Muppets just to see what they were like in person and I was hooked from the first. It's a priviledge to own these toys when so much has gone into making them. They aren't just any old toys, mass produced cheaply. There's heart and soul in the Muppets toys they almost live and breath. The environment playsets are gems, every one of them even if there is room for improvement here and there. All the sets work and all the sets make this line unique in actually having environments to place figures contextually. How many other lines do playsets like this? The larger companies just don't have a grasp on reality or their finger on the collectors pulse like Pallisades do. I feel mean spirited for even saying there's room for improvement.

I don't want to kiss tush here because I won't be buying every figure that's produced, no GOSA or VC Beaker, no IS Fozzie or WW Dr. Teeth, no wedding set or black jacket Rizzo for me. No megas or minis. I don't love everything that's made but I can appreciate it for what it is and why it is.
There is so much stuff to love in the line that a few passed over figures don't make a scrap of difference and there's no point sweating it over them. I know I don't. I'm too busy appreciating everything else that I do like.
 

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frogboy4 said:
Knowing Ken the java slinkies would go before the penguin. He *wants* to release penguins
... and whoever said you can't hypnotize people over the internet ? :zany:
 

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No, I blow. :wink: But really i have the regular Sam and if I have need of a GOSA I'll make some seaweed and cover him in flour. No need to buy a GOSA if I can make one myself is there? It's like CC chef. I don't want a messed up chef but i want the bandito lobsters because they're unique sculpts. So I buy the set but have a spare chef. What do I do with two chefs? I could give him away but he's expensive to me so i decide to use him for a custom. Trim off his upper apron and paint his shirt all white and his pants all black to give myself a vintage Muppets chef. He'll now look right at home with the steppin' out theme.
What can I do with a second Sam Arrow? His costume doesn't lend itself to any customistaion I can think of.
He looks nice I'll say that much but I'm just not excited by him.
I'd sooner save my cash for nekkid Sam. Or rather, regular Sam. :smile:
 

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I'm gladly buying Ghost Sam and I really like the figure, but the concept is one of my least favored exclusives. :attitude: I understand how some would pass. But that's why it's an exclusive in the first place.
 
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