Is Baby Bear Jewish?

Kimp the Shrimp

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the only problem is we saw them celebrate christmas ( Ernie and Bert)

i think snuffy should be jewish
 

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But Snuffy was vising his granny for Christmas in "Elmo Saves Christmas."

I think Roosevelt Franklin would've celebrated Kawanza. But if we needed a current character for that, we could have Hoots the Owl. He DOES sound like a black person (no surprise, since he's performed by Kevin Clash, a black Muppeteer).

Maybe the Count could celebrate Ramadan since he's from Transylvania... but then he did some Christmas stuff in "Elmo Saves Christmas."

Oscar hates Christmas, according to his song in "Christmas Eve on Sesame Street," so he could be Jewish. But then why would he be Scrooge in that upcoming DVD Christmas Carol thingy?

Kermit obviously celebrates Christmas, as we have seen in "Christmas Eve on Sesame Stret," "A Muppet Family Christmas," "A Muppet Christmas Carol," and "It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie." Heck, Kermit even did a couple of special news bulletins about Santa Claus on "Sesame Street!"
 

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Well, some Jewish people still get caught up in the Christmas celebrations too. Afterall, Mr. Hooper was sort of celebrating Christmas with everyone also (without getting offended).
 

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Muppet dude said:
But Snuffy was vising his granny for Christmas in "Elmo Saves Christmas."

I think Roosevelt Franklin would've celebrated Kawanza. But if we needed a current character for that, we could have Hoots the Owl. He DOES sound like a black person (no surprise, since he's performed by Kevin Clash, a black Muppeteer).

Maybe the Count could celebrate Ramadan since he's from Transylvania... but then he did some Christmas stuff in "Elmo Saves Christmas."

Oscar hates Christmas, according to his song in "Christmas Eve on Sesame Street," so he could be Jewish. But then why would he be Scrooge in that upcoming DVD Christmas Carol thingy?

Kermit obviously celebrates Christmas, as we have seen in "Christmas Eve on Sesame Stret," "A Muppet Family Christmas," "A Muppet Christmas Carol," and "It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie." Heck, Kermit even did a couple of special news bulletins about Santa Claus on "Sesame Street!"

wow that is some backwater good ole' boy stuff
 

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Muppet dude said:
I think Roosevelt Franklin would've celebrated Kawanza. But if we needed a current character for that, we could have Hoots the Owl. He DOES sound like a black person (no surprise, since he's performed by Kevin Clash, a black Muppeteer).
Errr... not all Black people celebrate Kwanzaa. Only some do, and since I have just a rough idea of what it is, I don't know how it could have been incorporated.

Maybe the Count could celebrate Ramadan since he's from Transylvania... but then he did some Christmas stuff in "Elmo Saves Christmas."
Are there a lot of Muslims in Transylvania? I thought it was a Christian country.... that goes, by the way, only of knowledge of Dracula movies, you know, how Drac quivers at the sight of a cross?

I'd say more, but this seems like an "Is the Count reallya vampire" debate.

Oscar hates Christmas, according to his song in "Christmas Eve on Sesame Street," so he could be Jewish. But then why would he be Scrooge in that upcoming DVD Christmas Carol thingy?
My oh my. Isn't complaining a negative Jewish stereotype? For him to fully hate christmas, he WOULDhave to be Christian. Otherwise, he wouldn't care about it. Other than the happy people, that is.

But then again, cartoon characters celebrate Christmas ONLY because Christmas specials make the most money. That's why the Ninja Turtles had 2 specials (one being a horrible live action one, one being an episode of the current TMNT cartoon), even though, given the fact they are Ninjas they should be Bushido or Buddist.
 

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Drtooth said:
Errr... not all Black people celebrate Kwanzaa. Only some do, and since I have just a rough idea of what it is, I don't know how it could have been incorporated.

Well, in Elmo's World: Happy Holidays, they discussed Kwanzaa and even showed Gordon, Susan and Miles celebrating it. As we know, they also celebrate Christmas though.
 

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Yeah, but I meant as Puppet characters. Besides, I always felt that Roosevelt Franklin was Purple, not black.
 

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Drtooth said:
Yeah, but I meant as Puppet characters. Besides, I always felt that Roosevelt Franklin was Purple, not black.

Well, literally, he is purple, but I believe he meant to represent an African American boy. Kingston Livingston III was definitely a Black character and it has been somewhat implied that he celebrates Kwanzaa. There is a coloring page on the Sesame Workshop website of KLIII with that thing that sort of looks like a Menorah.
 

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BEAR said:
Well, literally, he is purple, but I believe he meant to represent an African American boy.

HEH HEH... you did realize that was a joke, right? :halo:
 

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Interesting discussion. Of course, many people around the world celebrate Christmas- including both Christians and non-Christians. Of course, Christians put the emphasis on Christ's birth while non-Christians would tend to celebrate a more secularized version of it. In any case, I know non-Christians that readily celebrate Christmas with no problem, despite the fact that they practice a different religion.
So while some characters may be portrayed in certain ways- specifically Mr. Hooper and Baby Bear and family as Jewish- and apparently The Robinsons (Gordon, Susan and Miles) as celebrating Kwanzaa (though I'm not sure if there is a specific religion that holiday is associated with) - I'm pretty sure most all celebrate Christmas in a general secular sense at least- since all the characters I mentioned have been portrayed celebrating Christmas (even Mr. Hooper specifically wishes Bert and Ernie "Merry Christmas" and doesn't seem to have a problem participating in Christmas, while thanking Bob for remembering his Jewish heritage)
but I don't know of any specific emphasis that is really put on the birth of Jesus Christ in any of the Sesame Street Christmas productions. (as the Muppets generally stay away from the mention of God for the most part, in an effort not to be promoting any one particular thing I'm sure)
Though as a Christian, I do like that the John Denver and the Muppets: A Christmas Together special actually did address the birth of Jesus through a Muppet version and recitation of the Christmas story found in Luke 2- along with a performance of a great Christmas carol- "Silent Night".
 
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