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Gluing Technique Help!

Buck-Beaver

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The masks aren't a real impediment to your ability to work and every professional shop in Canada is required to use them under health and safety laws. There really aren't any good gloves to use unfortunately. I tend to rarely bother with them (again, I really should) but do use a special barrier cream.

The little cloth masks they sell in hardware stores do not work and offer no protection. What you have to wear at a minimum is a half-mask with an organic vapour cartridge. There's an example of these at http://www.websoft-solutions.net/3m_respirator_3m_half_face_respirator_p/5000-ser-res.htm

What actually should be worn - and what many of the professional builders that I have met use - is a full face piece similar to this one - http://www.websoft-solutions.net/mold_remediation_product_mold_remediation_product_p/3m-mdrmkt.htm (that may not be the correct model though) because it protects your eyes. Whenever someone buys these they should check to make sure they are purchasing the correct filters since different ones are used for working with different materials.

Anyone who is pregnant (or potentially could be pregnant) should not use contact cement...almost all of the responsible shops I've been in have a rule against that. Along the same lines, it's extremely unhealthy to use the contact cement in proximity to children. For adults, unprotected exposure to the fumes (in additon to the other aforementioned problems) reduces fertility, as does exposure to virtually any kind of chemical toxin.
 

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and then there are people like me, who just use the stuff devil may care, lol
 

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lol :crazy:

Not that I always throw caution to the wind, but the back of my contact cement tub only cautions a person to use in a well ventilated area. I wonder maybe if the Weldwood stuff isn't as strong as Barge, and therefor maybe not quite as dangerous..... although, still VERY potent. One small whiff is enough to tell you that it's not something to mess around with.
 

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ravagefrackle said:
and then there are people like me, who just use the stuff devil may care, lol
And you're in New Jersey---

The Jersey Devil!!
 

Buck-Beaver

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ravagefrackle said:
and then there are people like me, who just use the stuff devil may care, lol
Ah. It all starts to make sense now. :stick_out_tongue:



(kidding)
 

The Good Doctor

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Wow

WOW,
Great info. I would end up being the dumb guy who just went gung how and started building and ended up passing out from the fumes.
 

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Buck-Beaver said:
This is not so much a direct reply to Michele but a general comment on the whole contact cement/respirator isssue...the fumes in contact cement can cause headaches, damage your nasal passage, compromise your immune system and are suspected to cause cancer....
Can I just say HOLY $#!+....I've been using coctact glue at work ,for a while now,Quite a bit and had no idea how dangerous it was.After reading this I checked the drum and sure enough, it says you should wear gloves and a mask! Nobody told me!Even the workplace and safety guy has walked past and never told me to use a mask.
I saw the big "Flammable Liquid" sticker on it, but didn't read the other stuff on the label

To make short story long: I work at a large factory making luxury boats.Ive been working on the floors ,for the boat I work on, and The flooring is strips of Vinyl that look like wood grain.I have to cut them to fit a timber base and stick them on with contact cement,using a spray gun.And doing large areas at a time, using a fair bit of the stuff.

Explains these headaches I've been having and I also felt a bit faint.(even though I'm working in a very open area with a fan cause of the heat)
Used my fumes mask, and sure enough , no more headache. I just assumed it was from the general noise in the factory(I usually wear ear plugs,but when someones talking to me ,I tend to pull em out.)
I was talking to one of the upholstery guys and he was like.."oh yeah, I used to do fossing but couldn't handle the glue anymore so I asked to do these pelmets" and he showed me his hands, and he had like a lumpy rash on his palms,and told me the technical dermitological name for it.
I don't really get much skin contact , but now that I think about it ,I have had an itching on my arms before.I only touch it with my finger tips and it doesn't seem to do anything there.

Soon the floors ,I do , will be going to a sub-contracter and I'll be off them.

So I guess what i'm saying is "Kids, Allways read the labels when your using chemicals and volatile stuff.And you can't be too careful!Health and Safety stuff may be nerdy , but it's the smart thing."
 

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I would go see a doctor if I were you. To check if you might have a brain tumor or something. And sue your company if you run into any medical bills along the way (I would sue them either way for liability actually, but that's just me). You can have an independend organisation check out your workplace before they know you're even thinking about undertaking legal actions. So you have proof that health regulations are not being followed.

I guess I'm just a difficult person. But to me this is just another one of those instances where it shows that some people don't take any responsibility for another persons wellbeing. While it's even their job and they get paid to do it. In my opinion there are alot of people out there who are supposed to be proffesionals in their field but instead don't even know the simplest basics of their own job. And they don't seem to care either. And if they can't do their job then accidents will happen. Those people are responsible for posing as a proffesional while it's obvious that they are not. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.... or something :stick_out_tongue: What I mean is that if you take a job as a safety regulator then it becomes your responsibility. People should have to be able to count on you to warn them when they are endangering themselves.

If you really have medical problems then it's not your fault but theirs. I wouldn't let them get away with it.
 

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dude , I really couldn't be bothered with Sueing and all that.
I'm just going around telling every one that's using the stuff to wear a mask.
 
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