Caroll Spinney (Oscar & Big Bird)

[Fozzie Bear]

Good, I guess at least the JHC is still involved somewhat, huh? That's all good.

I think what Carroll was doing when Jim first saw him at a PofA convention (performing puppetry and animation at the same time) was brave and innovative. Carroll is a great talent.

 

[Super Scooter]

Right. Carroll said the thing he was trying to do didn't work right. So, it was indeed brave to attempt something like that.

Jim said something like "I liked what you were trying to do. Why don't you come to New York and talk about the Muppets."

Was that the first or second time the two of them met? I know they never ended up talking about the Muppets the first time.