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I thought of that too. But it doesn't make a lot of sense, because like I said before we had an unexpected 'alternate' Kermit performer back in '09. This time we know about it, so I don't know what's going on. They can't keep Matt's :) out of the spotlight forever. Hopefully we'll see it...

And I just noticed now someone is copying my signature quote. Lol.

Wachu talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Yeah. I know what you mean. It's like that Taco Bell commercial with the cursing into it that I mentioned before on the other thread, "corporate big wigs," don't seem to listen to people's complaints or concerns. It's sad but what can you do?

Yeah. I agree. I was going to suggest closing the thread too. I think we're getting too much into it and we just need to realize what's done is done and we need to move on. Maybe we can start a separate thread once we hear Matt's :). Just my thoughts on this.

I have to agree there. That songs comes in very handy for mew when I'm reminded of people I'm never going to see again. *sigh*

Yeah. Seems like they are trying to avoid showing someone else as Kermit for the time being. Though it is strange when you think about it. Back in '09, Kermit was performed by someone else completely unexpectedly and Artie's Kermit made two or three appearances around that time. Now that we...

Yeah. I know what you mean. If anything, it's the opposite, I always felt that Steve's :) was a bit more mellow than Jim's, except as I mentioned before even Steve's had his share of outbursts too, especially in MTI and VMX. So I definitely agree it has more to do with the writing rather than...

Well, I thought Artie's performance was a bit weak on AGT, but he did seem to improve when he appeared on the MTV Music Awards or whatever that was about a week or so later. When that happened, it wasn't Artie's performance as :) that was the issue so much as the question was "Why was Kermit...

Well, they did seem to want to recast him before. Recall the incident on America's Got Talent. I mean, none of us know what really happened there. But with all this going on, I think I'm seeing more insight into that. I think recasting :) may have been on Disney's minds at that time and they...

Yeah. I see both sides of things, because I didn't know until reading recent articles that Steve was sort of being disrespectful with his peers, but that is the thing about performers. You know them as their character. Take Sasha Mitchell who's character on Step by Step Cody Lambert was...

Okay. I was a little confused there, because I knew Lyon was a puppeteer for Henson, but I guess that makes more sense, kind of like that "Family Guy" clip. "Now we've got wrong sounding Muppets."

I see. So you're saying Billy was sort of to be a temporary Ernie voice from the get-go. That makes more sense then.

Ahhh. The plot thickens. I always thought he voluntarily left SS to work exclusively for Henson/Disney. It's still beyond me though why they would recast Ernie after they just recast him recently. Makes me wonder if Steve's termination from SS/Muppets had something to do with it. I recall...

Thanks for that info, Mo. I asked about that before and no one answered, but I guess I can understand that with all that's been going on. I will check out that Bert and Ernie video when I get a chance. I'm surprised that they did recast Ernie after they already did recast him recently. Poor...

Wow! You mean Cheryl sided with Disney on recasting :)? That's a big disappointment. Also, I thought I'd ask, has the "Thought of the Week" with Matt's :) been posted yet? I've been looking and I couldn't find it. I thought it would be up by now.

Thanks for that insight, Mo. Yeah. It does seem like Jim and Paul were alternating on and off as Tigger, even as early as "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh," there was a first season ep where Jim voiced Tigger rather than Paul. The weird thing was that Paul left "The Smurfs" to make a...

Yeah. I've been trying to avoid negative thoughts about Disney as well. They have done very well with their movies (my brother is a fan of those) and classic characters like Mickey, Donald, Goofy, etc. It just seems like Muppets aren't really their thing for whatever reason. Though if that's...

Good idea, Deadly. I should send one too when I get a chance. I know we can't guarantee this will be effective, but (British accent) "It's worth a try, Rizzo."

I often wondered about that. Seems like Grover was trying to get revenge on Fat Blue. I had an idea for a fan fiction about that, but I haven't had a lot of time to do any writing of late.