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Frank Oz could say the Muppets are dead to him, and it wont change my view that he's a god for all he's done. Im just glad Goelz stuck around, so we have some sort of continuity with the past. I'll be honest. I prefer the Jim Lewis/Thatcher/Brian Henson/the late Juhl stuff as far as post Jim...

Right, I agree it was this(which is winning hearts of audiences and critics like no other film) or just more empty promises and maybe a lame duck christmas special. Its not just the edits. Its a little too wink-and-nod sacarine...the population numbers flipping gag/50's pleasantville...

Yeah I was a HARDCORE "Lucasfan" in the 90's. I was already well into college when Phantom Farce came out. (Episode 1 in 3d? Yeah I dont think so Lucas) I lovvvvved the 1995 vhs reissue of the trilogy. But I felt violated with the weird cgi meddling with star wars and return. He single handedly...

Whats the name of the book? Ive often said Henson's creations/Muppets/Sesame is one of the few things Ive seen that helps unlock special needs kids/adults. Ha, thats an excellent observation about Beaker. I love the deep analytical/philosophical theories about the Muppet personality archtypes

Lets hope by next week the ads will say "#1 movie in America" !

@Muppfozz: That literally made me tear up. Time and time again I have seen so much evidence that the Muppets and Sesame Street light up and bring special needs kids and adults out of their shell. My mom worked with downs/severe autistic/other special needs kids and muppet vhs tapes and...

I can see where Duke is going with that notion. I mean I agree with him. Trust me, my issues with the film are strictly kept here and only for discussion with hardcore fans. The film works and does what it is suppose to do I feel. But for me personally I just have a lot of chagrins about it. But...

Well Richard Hunt was gay, it was a deep part of his identity. He crafted Scooter to accurately reflect how he was and felt in high school and in college. Obviously it woulda been a poop storm had they dared make any concrete statements, but Muppet historians and deeper fans get the wink and...

Ok, I got it! I just wrote this to answer Heralde in another thread, but this is it. This is my main issue with the new film: Thats my problem with the new film...theres no moments of beauty behold. Its just whiz bang family guy style. I miss the subtle quiet moments, the breathing room, the...

Thats my problem with the new film...theres no moments of beauty behold. Its just whiz bang family guy style. I miss the subtle quiet moments, the breathing room, the natural progression without cheap quick edits, and the ambient moments of the original films especially TMM and TMTM

Actually I find his opinion refreshing and important. And I welcome him to MC:) I get kind of tired of all the yesmen stuff, and like critical opinions. I mean even I, a massive Matrix and Tron fan was adament about issues I had with the sequels as much as I still loved them This new film in no...

Yeah I find it hard to disagree with you. I got so caught up in the "OMG MUPPETS ON THE BIG SCREEN" that I got lost in my true feeling. I defer to my original original thoughts in where the film left me feeling a bit depressed. Depressed of course because of the theme, but depressed in that...

I swear we'll be on here in the year 2012 and you'll still be mentioning how bad Oz is, the problems with the MFS pre production, Weinsteins and Fraggles, and the Snoop edit on VMX:) (i kid! I have my things I harp on) Maybe by 2012 Diz will release Season 4 and 5? :) The tv movie edits dont...

Like in the film, it seems like the Muppets get no love and are pushed aside for the latest thing. Ive begun to really sour on Pixar sadly, especially Cars.

Weird, as the footage of D23 I saw from 2009 had an epic array of live Muppet performances, songs, skits, etc. I consider "Cheapest" to really be the Muppets 2011, and I remember a lot of the youtube videos ended up being released in 2010 if Im remembering correctly. Yeah this year seemed...

Just watched it again...HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN THIS: LAND OF GORCH picture and reference from Scooter in the opening ^___^;; So awesomely awesome *loves Scred*

Ugh, it bothers me when some people in reviews or bashing of the muppets still consider them a "kids" franchise only. I mean shoot, "Mahna Mahna" literally comes from a Swedish adult film from the late 60's, before it debuted on Sesame Street and the Ed Sullivan show. And nothing is more adult...

Pretty much every song on the radio or thats popular. People complain about the blandness of Nickelback. To me most mainstream music sounds like Nickelback. I like *some* classic rock, mostly 60's and 70's British and New York stuff. And while I like a good amount of "80's" bands, there's also a...

Epictetus, you'll find this strange to believe...and given I don't care what people think of my opinions, I will just say I agree with almost everything you said. Now some might think "Cory, how can you say the movie is an amazing watershed moment yet agree with Epictetus". Well it's because...

Ha, yeah it was our chat that made me want to write this thread. Its a theme Ive mentioned on here for years...I think part of it is we secretly want to keep it relatively unknown while at the same time wanting to see our beloved foamy furry pals become a mass marketed mainstream brand again. I...