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I won't even acknowledge the Nickelodeon turtles...TMNT is dead as far as Im concerned, other than the IDW comics. I agree with everything you said Tooth about what make both the classic, 2003 and other stuff great... but have you seen footage or pix of the Nick Jr TMNT scheduled for 2012? I...

Well, would you agree that at least the theater scenes are pretty cool? I like seeing the Bossmen and other scenes when they are rehearsing. But yeah VMX is not one of my favorites. There are Jim Henson productions I think are just beyond words for me. The original film and the Muppets Take...

That was pretty messed up. I got the joke. I liked how they got the art of 1988 right with the old school universe. But it was mean spirited. I eventually realized I dont care for Turtles Forever, even tho it does wrap things up. But unlike M2011 its not a love letter for fans. Its a crude slap...

Oh totally. I think a lot of Muppet fans realize that MFS started off as an amazing film, and it just unraveled. But Ive now in hindsight come to appreciate the film in a different light. We have had MFS, KSY, VMX, Oz, LTS and M2011. I consider Oz to be the absolute worst, to the point where I...

I grew up on the goofy totally tubular to the max turtles, but I also was a fan of the black and white hard edged comic as a kid. I thought the 2003 show finally did it justice by having real action(not watered down stuff) and complex storylines. The 2009 tv movie kind of went above and beyond...

Adventure Time? Thats now a comic? Ive come to really hate Adventure Time and all the annoying fad fans. But Labyrinth is always good. Too bad they arent putting out Fraggle stuff, but theyve done a wonderful job with Fraggle Rock Its so funny, last year at Wondercon I was in the Fraggle...

Dr Tooth, it sounds like its one of those things where we all are staring at the same painting but have different philosophical views on what it means...even tho we all kind of agree on the nuts and bolts. Ive now had over a week to let the new film digest. I kind of want to keep this part...

More proof ALL post Disney buyout Henson puppets are considered Muppets(Henson Alternative, Puppet Up, Stuffed and Unstrung, Pajanimals, etc), or at least to the fans. I consider any non creature shop puppet JHC makes to be a muppet:)

Thats correct. I believe the film we got was the one that needed to be made for better or worse. It's just the way the wind blows. In 2009 at D23 they indeed smacked down the then heavily bizzed Segel film to sell us on the dream Henson project "Cheapest Muppet Movie". But yes, that may have...

If you actually read what he is saying, it's not a mere slam. It's a really well thought out, almost scholarly(IMHO) dissection of why the new film may for some not feel as authentic as it is heralded as. At least compared to what made the originals great. I have been proselytizing this film to...

BRILLIANT! Yeah in retrospect it truly does feel like a cheap imitation. I'm so glad you mentioned Movin Right Along, as I find it one of the most important and seminal moments in the 60 years of Muppet history. I respect Segel, Stohler, Bobbins, etc. The Muppets would be languishing in...

Once again, I agree with every word. I just saw the most amazing film of the year, which Im sure will be up for a few oscars. It's called "The Descendents" starring George Clooney. Like the original Muppet film, Alien, The Shining, Silence of the Lambs, etc its one of those absolutely perfect...

Im asian and I laugh my butt off at asian stereotypes in cartoons. Tho that could also be because Im about as "white washed" as it gets and have no connection to anything remotely cultural asian wise

dang heralde, how'd you hold out so long and avoid spoilers? :)

I thought online Turtle and Sonic fans sucked in 2003:) Muppet fandom is one of the only nice niche fan circles online. I LOVVVVVVVVED TMNT 2007(the film) I thought it was the best film since the 1990 Turtles film. I believe I even used the words visionary and a masterpiece in my review of the...

Well its about winter now...im sure these things will start popping up on ebay for $40-$50 a pop soon

I think they should rerun those ultra racist Looney Tunes cartoons on tv, just for the lulz. People have gotten so ultra PC in this society we're now just turning into idiots.

Amazing! I actually got to meet and talk with Richard's two sisters. They were very excited to be at muppetfest and started talking to me because of my Beaker pin on my jacket. Im so happy to see Richard's characters become such big hits with people, but now its even better that his signature...

I agree. And yeah I was hoping for that jail scene, it was so funny. I felt the film, while hitting a lot of notes a contemporary audience would love as well as genuine moments of real emotion...was kind of a strange egg omlette of random ideas that didn't always work. It was attention deficit...

Oh you're right...there's so many scenes with Walter...subtle nuanced scenes that really got to me. The rainbow connection, and a lot of Kermits speeches were breathlessly done. What I mean is just really organic nuanced moments as glimpsed in the first movies. The "montage" bit is a funny gag...