One Reality Exploitation Show Down...

Drtooth

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ut as I've said may, many, many times before, women in general are being sexualized, and as such, young girls out there really have no decent role models out there... I mean, we all know Miley Cyrus could not wait to tarnish her squeaky-clean Disney Girl image by dressing up like a stripper and pole dancing on an ice cream cart, and since Princess Diaries, has Anne Hathaway ever done a movie where she DOESN'T play a hoe? But then again, that's the society we live in today, society rarely frowns upon anything anymore... in fact, today's modern and comtemporary society encourages stuff like this anymore.
Anne... I don't even know a movie where she did quite honestly. She definitely wasn't one in Get Smart... and she seems to do a lot of weird artsy indie movies. Selina Cyle is probably the most sexualized thing she could be, depending on how far towards turning into Catwoman the next Bats film goes into.

But Miley... ugh. Lemme tell you this. NO actor should be forever identified with something. If they do, they'll either get type cast or never find work ever again. Child actors moreso than others. Some regret being famous, because their parents blow all the money. There are a lot of sad, sad tales out there, but Miley is an adult now and she wants to brand herself AS herself and not let a crappy TV show hold her back, just give her a spring board. I'm no fan, but a scenario where Billy Ray takes all the money, leaving her broke and hopeless would just have been horrible.

That said, much as I hate Hanna Montana... that show DID quell little girls dressing 10 years older than they should and dancing to hip hop with explicit lyrics. The Jonahses however....

Now on one hand, we shouldn't hide sex or sexuality in a closet and pretend it doesn't exist. But on the other hand, it shouldn't be something anyone under the age of 13 should think about.

Well some of these parents are trying to win in order to get the money for things like college for their kids. For many people there's no other options open to them, or very few. I can't entirely blame them for that.
I doubt highly it has anything to do with college (which isn't even a guarantee anymore anyway). It's all about exploiting the kids, taking all the money, and turning kids into plastic girls with a pre-programmed agenda... all while living vicariously through their kids that... well, aren't 40 something year old saggy blobs of fat. These pageants aren't about how cute or talented these girls are anymore... they all have to sexualize 5 year olds so they can win in a "pretty girls are better" competition. There's just something completely immoral about that and it says a LOT more about society than how sexy everything has to be.

Of course, there's still the fears of a double-dip recession, but eh, this country's falling flat on it's donkey anyway... of course, if McCain won the election, we'd still have these problems, but there wouldn't be any blame game, because he would act like the country's doing great. Just like Bush did.
I don't want to go off on that but... Had McCain got in, the right would have bailed out the banks in a heartbeat, things wouldn't have been half as good as they are now, and to completely blind side us of how poor we are and how much money the top percent control, we'd go into Iran or some other Middle Eastern sideshow, and we would have to say how great it was that he did that.
 

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These pageants aren't about how cute or talented these girls are anymore... they all have to sexualize 5 year olds so they can win in a "pretty girls are better" competition. There's just something completely immoral about that and it says a LOT more about society than how sexy everything has to be.
Well, there are natural beauty pageants where they aren't allowed to have make up, but of course those aren't talked about of publicized because who wants to look at girls (and women) who don't look like Barbies :/
 

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I doubt highly it has anything to do with college (which isn't even a guarantee anymore anyway). It's all about exploiting the kids, taking all the money, and turning kids into plastic girls with a pre-programmed agenda... all while living vicariously through their kids that... well, aren't 40 something year old saggy blobs of fat. These pageants aren't about how cute or talented these girls are anymore... they all have to sexualize 5 year olds so they can win in a "pretty girls are better" competition. There's just something completely immoral about that and it says a LOT more about society than how sexy everything has to be.
Some parents are trying to get money for the family. They don't wake up one morning and say "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to exploit my kid!" Now I'm sure there are some families that pocket the money and that's wrong, but you'd find that outside of pageants too.

Pageants aren't my favorite thing, but I don't think all girls who do it are doomed forever either. Or that it automatically means their parents are jerks. It's rarely that simple.

You can have parents who teach their kids to be feminists, yet they're the worst parents alive in every other way.
 

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Some parents are trying to get money for the family. They don't wake up one morning and say "Hey, wouldn't it be fun to exploit my kid!" Now I'm sure there are some families that pocket the money and that's wrong, but you'd find that outside of pageants too.
For all they spend on cosmetic surgery, spray tans, and lessons upon lessons so they can do something for the talent competition, they basically HAVE the money to put kids through college, they just want to exploit them and make money for themselves.

The fact we even have a television show about it is disgusting. This stuff is why the rest of the world hates us, and I can't blame them.

And I think the Ramseys killed their daughter too.
 

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For all they spend on cosmetic surgery, spray tans, and lessons upon lessons so they can do something for the talent competition, they basically HAVE the money to put kids through college, they just want to exploit them and make money for themselves.
How is that any different from parents spending huge amounts of money on sports, in the hope that their kid can get a sports scholarship for college?
 

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How is that any different from parents spending huge amounts of money on sports, in the hope that their kid can get a sports scholarship for college?
Exactly! Same exact thing. I'm no fan of that either. Especially when the parents beat the crap out of each other and shout demoralizing things to their own kids. Living vicariously through your kids, one way or another, isn't healthy for the parent or the child.

However, if the children show a general interest in something and the parents foster it gently, there's a big different. But I've seen TOO many sports families that take the fun out of sports.

Still, there's no need to be TV shows about either.
 

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Exactly! Same exact thing. I'm no fan of that either. Especially when the parents beat the crap out of each other and shout demoralizing things to their own kids. Living vicariously through your kids, one way or another, isn't healthy for the parent or the child.
Right, so I guess I'm saying it doesn't really matter what the activity is, it's the type of parents that are involved.

But again, parents might behave badly at times, but that doesn't mean they're all around bad parents or aren't thinking of their kids at all.
 

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Okay... I just lost a LOT of respect for Ryan Seacrest when I found out that he's actually the mastermind behind most, if not all, of these reality exploitation shows, like those umpteen Kardashian shows and whatnot.
 

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Okay... I just lost a LOT of respect for Ryan Seacrest when I found out that he's actually the mastermind behind most, if not all, of these reality exploitation shows, like those umpteen Kardashian shows and whatnot.
That's easy for me. I never had any respect for him in the first place.

:sleep: DWOH! Ho ho ho! :boo:
 
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