Wow there are sure a lot of negitive response to the new forum I wonder if enough people wanted change, or something to happen I wonder if it really would. I love MC and I always have, even though we have had our problems. I think if leadership is a true issue then maybe some delgation should be done. I would love for the whole web site as a whole really grow, but I feel one person can't do it all. Phill I love MC and I know since the updates you have been on a lot more, so if your reading this there are people who would love to help impove the site (not just the Froum) please let some people like myself and others help out. Becaue when the new Muppet movie hits this site is going to be flooded with new visitors, and I think we need to really tiddy up the whole site. We could form a commite or something, and get some new stuff added to the site. Yes Toughpigs and the mindset are great sites, but i truly and honestly feel that this site could be even better then both of them.