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Worst of all, he could very well win the election because his side keeps the uneducated, mad at the wrong people general public in check with scary buzz words like "Socialist" so the rich can keep their hard stolen money, and no one gets any rights or freedoms unless they're gun owners.

Ehhh, I'm not sold on the idea of his winning yet. He's got a lot of, as they say, baggage. Plus he's not exactly a fresh face. His time might be past. Not saying it's impossible, but there's a lot of strikes against it.

In any case, I'm not voting for him. Probably not for Obama either. Just another day at the voting booth with no one to vote for.

About the personal lives of politicans though, if we had known all the dirty little secrets of politicans in the past, they might not have gotten elected, even though some of them did end up doing some halfway decent things for the country. There are plenty of examples of public figures (not necessarily politicans) who have worked hard for the well being of others, but can't always keep their home lives stable. Frankly, it's hard to do both. Certainly some mistakes are worse than others though.

 

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About the personal lives of politicans though, if we had known all the dirty little secrets of politicans in the past, they might not have gotten elected, even though some of them did end up doing some halfway decent things for the country. There are plenty of examples of public figures (not necessarily politicans) who have worked hard for the well being of others, but can't always keep their home lives stable. Frankly, it's hard to do both. Certainly some mistakes are worse than others though.

There's a difference between making a mistake, and purposely doing bad things and finger wagging everyone else with Do as I say, not as I do rhetoric. There is nothing MORE disgusting than people who claim "family values" for the homophobic, fear crazed masses to glom votes and then turn around and boff everything that moves while you're married.

So far, the right's pretty much revealed the same gang of candidates... old fogeys, rich oil slick haired used car salesmen, and the ubiquitous nutzoid batnuggets. And of course, they're going to do what they're best at, screwing the workers, giving more money and power to megaconglomerates, riding the xenophobe train, and of course, picking on a crazy country when their domestic issues start hurting them. The GOP should be the SOP... Same ol' putzbuckets. And people always pick them because they're the loudest bullies on the playground. Trump's crap was just a publicity stunt for his terrible reality show that people stopped watching until this year. That and the fact like all rich people, he's mortally afraid of paying his fair share of taxes.

I'd love to say, I give up on voting too, but my fears of ANY of these guys running the country...into the ground, that is, will have me voting for the lesser of two evils as usual. And rest assured, if any of them get the nod, I'm learning French, selling all my worldly possessions and movie the crap out of here. At least, until the SOP evolves into something moderate or middle ground. They moved even further right as far as I'm concerned.

I'd rather have someone who says their on my side and is too weak to do anything for me than a side that tells me what I want, and does nothing but use me until I'm a pulp.

 

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There is nothing MORE disgusting than people who claim "family values" for the homophobic, fear crazed masses to glom votes and then turn around and boff everything that moves while you're married.

Oh for sure, Newt is not someone who should be speaking of family values, or criticizing others, to say the least.

I'd love to say, I give up on voting too, but my fears of ANY of these guys running the country...into the ground, that is, will have me voting for the lesser of two evils as usual.

Thing is, and no offence intended, but that's just continuing the system, nothing changes. Why should either party change when they know we'll just keep voting for one or the other every time? There is no lesser, there's just evil and evil. These so-called "different parties" aren't enemies, they're all friends with each other. They're in cahoots and we're being played for suckers.

If more people let the government know that they're not playing the rigged voting game anymore, then something might change.

It's not that I'm giving up. Well, I am giving up on voting for the wrong people every time. I'm protesting for better options.

 

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There's a difference between making a mistake, and purposely doing bad things and finger wagging everyone else with Do as I say, not as I do rhetoric. There is nothing MORE disgusting than people who claim "family values" for the homophobic, fear crazed masses to glom votes and then turn around and boff everything that moves while you're married.

Agreed. And it's not his mistakes as much as just how horribly he made them: News served his cancer-riddled second wife with divorce papers on Mother's Day so he could marry his pregnant mistress and all the while kept preaching his arbitrary view of family values! You just can't invent that disgusting level of hubris.

I believe in forgiveness, but it's not like he's really been forthcoming on just how horrific he's treated the women in his life, especially considering how all of this affects his children. And even after being forgiven there are some things that a person must give up due to their prior bad deeds. Bernie Madoff could find Jesus, but that doesn't mean his change of heart should allow his appointment to the NY Stock Exchange and consult people on how to invest their money!

Again, I really like the idea of "glitter-pelting" homophobic activists like Newt. It's a way to bring each bigot to light in a harmless, colorful way.

 

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Agreed. And it's not his mistakes as much as just how horribly he made them: News served his cancer-riddled second wife with divorce papers on Mother's Day so he could marry his pregnant mistress and all the while kept preaching his arbitrary view of family values! You just can't invent that disgusting level of hubris.

People who believe what he believes (or pretends to believe) feel that his (and their) farts don't stink. I hate being righty vs lefty and all, but if there's one thing the right is extremely good at is throwing stones in glass houses and getting away with it. Both sides are equally good at screwing around, getting into affairs, having scandals... the right's just either good at hiding them, or they have enough friends in the media that exploit the other side so they come out, smelling like a rose. I'm actually surprised the Schwarzenegger thing is getting ANY press... I guess the fact he's a celeb wins out over being a right wing politician.

Of course, when someone on the left does the same thing, it's ALL over the news, people remember, you never not here it. I can't even remember the guy in the bathroom stall or the names of half the people caught doing what Clinton did, but I'll never forget how John Edwards cheated on his wife and how evil he was for doing it. Hey, they're still trying to dig up dirt on JFK. It's still not right, no side is above the law... but when you talk about how the existence of gay people is evil and defiling Kwik-E marriages to scare and control the public into voting for you, that's a sickening double standard. They can apologize all they want and blame Satan for it, they're STILL a bunch of hypocritical hedonists trying to get votes.

I have NO doubt in my mind the only reason they bothered impeaching Clinton for doing the SAME thing was all a mad power grab. Nothing else. It's all about whining when they don't control everything, leading to a one party system.... again, the very same thing they whine about when the shoe's on the other foot.

 

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I have NO doubt in my mind the only reason they bothered impeaching Clinton for doing the SAME thing was all a mad power grab.

Hey, is the sky blue?

 

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I could go on and on with my political "right wing extremist nutjob" views but I'm going to try to keep this on topic. Regardless of your views, I believe that this act of "activism" was very disrespectful. I don't believe that going in and shouting and throwing glitter was the right way of handling things. It was rude and unnessecary. Now, if that guy went and organized a protest outside the building would have been more courteus while also getting the point across. I don't like Obama, but I wouldn't shout at him or throw stuff at him just becuase I disagree with his views. Instead, I speak out about it in other places. I think everyone deserves some respect and courtesy and this man's so-called "activism" did not show that.

I could also state opinions about your view of Newt but I would like to keep this on topic and not make it a political debate. I support Gingrich and many of his views but I don't think this is the time or place to discuss that right now.

Just putting in my two cents.

 

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Regardless of your views, I believe that this act of "activism" was very disrespectful. I don't believe that going in and shouting and throwing glitter was the right way of handling things. It was rude and unnessecary.

Well the way I see it, it didn't hurt anybody, which is very important. ("When you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me out.")

However I personally wouldn't do something like that myself, because it could degenerate into something worse, even if you yourself don't intend it to.

I generally prefer more substantive protests myself. It's easy to do something outrageous and get attention, but that doesn't mean you've necessarily gotten your point across.

I'm not crying over Newt, or any politican, being embarrassed though. ; )

 

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Now, if that guy went and organized a protest outside the building would have been more courteus while also getting the point across.

Yeah, and no one would have listened to him, bothered to mention it, and he would have blended into the background.

Seriously, Newt is EXACTLY what's wrong with the Republican party.

 

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Yeah, and no one would have listened to him, bothered to mention it, and he would have blended into the background.

Probably true, but the question is, are people taking him more seriously now? It's sort of like PETA. Most of the time their stunts just turn people off rather than convert them.