So Now There Are Ten Deadly Sins

[D'Snowth]

Hmm...honestly, I don't know if I want to get into that. I'll wait and see how the conversation goes. But anyone else can feel free, in a respectful manner.

Things that honor and glorify God.

Well, you got me there.

BTW, did you guys know that in some parts of the world (like in the middle east I think), watching television, and using the internet are considered sins as well?

 

[CensoredAlso]

Alright, I suppose this is harmless enough. A sin to me is when you hurt someone or yourself, either on purporse or by being severly thoughtless.

 

[D'Snowth]

Alright, I suppose this is harmless enough. A sin to me is when you hurt someone or yourself, either on purporse or by being severly thoughtless.

Now I'll buy that.

 

[CensoredAlso]

As far as pollution...like we said, it's impossible to completely avoid it. So I suppose the bad thing would be if we didn't make the effort to recycle and throw away trash, advocating for political change etc.

If you're abusing drugs, you are hurting a human being, yourself. That is wrong, I don't mind saying it's a sin. And you sometimes hurt other people who are completely innocent, like with drunk driving.

 

[D'Snowth]

If you're abusing drugs, you are hurting a human being, yourself. That is wrong, I don't mind saying it's a sin. And you sometimes hurt other people who are completely innocent, like with drunk driving.

Which is why I think smoking should also be labeled as a sin; remember when Ernest tried to get Vern to quit smoking because he was just "Askin' for a case of 'The Big C'... you know... 'Cancer City'... 'Chemotherapy Hotel'?", meanwhile Jim Varney was an excessive smoker himself, but didn't even TRY to quit until it was too late and he was diagnosed with lung cancer, and he tried going cold turkey, but the damage had already been done. Not to mention passive smoking (or second-hand-smoking, if you will), which I did a paper about last year for English.

Then there's drinking: the pro is that alcohol DOES kill germs and bacteria, which is why it's my understanding that people, even Christians, are encouraged to have like an "occasional" drink, but then there's the issue of drinking excessively, which causes you lose your inhibitions because of the alcohol.

 

[CensoredAlso]

Well it does upset me when I see priests smoking. I think it should be discouraged, to be honest. Because it's very difficult to smoke "casually."

Yeah a lot of smokers still try to encourage others to quit, even though they still do it. I totally understand, it's not easy to quit. And it's great and brave that they're giving others advice.

I think drinking is OK occasionally. But you really have to be careful because it's so easy to go overboard.

Now that I think about it, I don't really use the word "sin" much (except for this thread apparently heh). I guess I use the term "wrong" more. And it is all just my opinion of course, I could also be...emm...incorrect.

 

[furryredmonster]

Then there's drinking: the pro is that alcohol DOES kill germs and bacteria, which is why it's my understanding that people, even Christians, are encouraged to have like an "occasional" drink, but then there's the issue of drinking excessively, which causes you lose your inhibitions because of the alcohol.

I thought excessive drinking was already a sin? =/

 

[dwayne1115]

I think what people are upset about here is the language. The term "sin" is coming off as bossy and negative. Understandable. But I honestly think the Church is doing this not to be a pain, but because they haven't taken clear stances on some of these issues before, which they should have. That's all.

And again, I do think if they're going to take these stances, they need to do more than just say it's wrong. They need to educate people and participate in making things better. Not that they haven't, I went to Catholic school and learned about pollution and drugs etc.

You all bring up some interesting points, and I have some thoughts on this. First i think we are talking about Sin and church, and when have a question about those two things there is only one place i turn. We have a guide for life, and it tells us what sin is, and that guide is the Bible. All we have to do is look and see what God has to say about these things in his Holy Word,
In the book of Genesis God gives Adam domemoan over all the animals and name them, and after Adam and Eve both sinned God made Adam work the ground or till. to take cares of the earth so to speak.
There is also the fact of sin, and i would like to talk about that most of all. In the book of Romans there are a lot of verses on sin.
Romans 3 23 says For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of GOD. Now I don't see any place where is says comes short of the Church, but i don't know.
Romans 5 12 tells us where sin came from: Where as by one MAN sin entered into the world and death by sin:and so death passed upon all men, for all have sinned.

Romans 6 23 says for the wages (Payments) of sin is death (but heres the good part) but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord.

So what does all this mean? Well i tell you, and I hope im not coming across like a know it all.
In the beggingns of time there was no sin. God made man to know no sin, but Satan came and temped man to sin,and man fell for it. This sadly made all men sinners because we all came from Adam.
All that is bad, and I know your thinking well if thats the case then there is no hope for any of us. Well there is, and that is Jesus. Jesus came down from heaven and gave his life for all our sins. He paid our way to heaven, and he did it for free. He loves us so much that he wants us to be with him and the father in heaven. All you have to do is ask God to forgive you of your sins and ask Jesus to come into your heart, and become a child of God. Amen.

 

[CensoredAlso]

Well what I will say is, any religion is a man made organization run by humans and they are occasionally wrong. The faith itself is what's ultimately important. It is important for me to disinguish my faith from my religion, it's not always the same thing.

 

[D'Snowth]

Well what I will say is, any religion is a man made organization run by humans and they are occasionally wrong. The faith itself is what's ultimately important. It is important for me to disinguish my faith from my religion, it's not always the same thing.

Now that, I have to agree with as well.

And the problem is I think "freedom of expression" is something that is abused as far as religion is concerned... I mean do there really need all these different demoninations (Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian, Protestant, etc) branching out of Christianity itself? I think that might have something to do with how a lot of people who aren't necessarily followers of Christ view religions as nothing more than more "brain-washing cults".