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So Now There Are Ten Deadly Sins

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It'd be in everyones best interest if you tried not to pollute, so you do your best not to. But making it a sin just makes people angry and feel guilty.
I definitely agree, no one should be made to feel guilty or belittled. It's just that our society also never wants to be told they can't do something, even if it's harmful. Not polluting would be in everyone's best interest. But a lot of people would rather just do what they feel like at that moment.
 

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I have to agree with Kendra and Heralde, while it would be wise if people did their best to NOT do certain things like pollute the atmosphere (and even littering for that matter), but actually being told not (and making it a sin in this case) isn't going to do any good because it's true: people DON'T like being told what not to do.

I remember in Grade 3, our teacher actually made a point out of that people, psychologically always want to do the exact opposite of what they're told (reverse psychology) when one day, being sick and tired of the entire class whispering, or talking quietly amongst themselves when we're supposed to be quiet, he finally said "Alright, that's it, go ahead! Talk! Talk all you want!", and suddenly the entire class was dead silent, hesistant to say anything, thus proving his point that people always want to do the exact opposite of what they're told to.
 

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I remember in Grade 3, our teacher actually made a point out of that people, psychologically always want to do the exact opposite of what they're told (reverse psychology)
That is true, people are like that. I do think there are better ways of getting people to listen other than punishment. People do drugs because they're in pain, that's nearly always the case. They need self esteem and they need better ways to handle pain.

But still, just because children don't want to do something, doesn't mean we go "Oh ok, you don't have to." Not when it's for their own good. Sometimes you have to lay down the law, so to speak. And parents who say "We can't stop our kids from drinking. We might as well make it safe at least." I'm sorry, but there are a lot of kids who don't drink. Saying "I can't stop it" is not an excuse.
 

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According to an article it also says that now being really rich is a sin. It's your money, I say do what you want with it. Most wealthy people donate money, anyway.
 

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Well, we can't force people to give away their money. And it's not wrong to be wealthy in itself. But I do dislike this class system we have in this country (which rarely gets discussed). It IS a sin how poor some people are, and then how rich others are, in a country that's supposedly about equality.
 

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According to an article it also says that now being really rich is a sin. It's your money, I say do what you want with it.
Now being greedy is one thing, but being rich a sin? Now that's going too far! I mean, if that's the case, then being poor should be a sin as well, I mean, some people have no where to go, and have to do their business in public places, thus causing "health concerns" for other people.
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Most wealthy people donate money, anyway.
Yeah, but not a whole lot.
 

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I think what people are upset about here is the language. The term "sin" is coming off as bossy and negative. Understandable. But I honestly think the Church is doing this not to be a pain, but because they haven't taken clear stances on some of these issues before, which they should have. That's all.

And again, I do think if they're going to take these stances, they need to do more than just say it's wrong. They need to educate people and participate in making things better. Not that they haven't, I went to Catholic school and learned about pollution and drugs etc.
 

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I think what people are upset about here is the language. The term "sin" is coming off as bossy and negative. Understandable. But I honestly think the Church is doing this not to be a pain, but because they haven't taken clear stances on some of these issues before, which they should have. That's all.
That's not what I said; I'm just saying I think it's a little asburd that certain things are now being considered sins like polluting, and being rich and stuff. I'm pretty sure everyone here is smart enough and intelligent enough to know that the term "sin" regards wrong doing in the eyes of the Lord, and not necessarily being used as something COMPLETELY "bossy and negative".

It also, now that we've delved so deeply into the subject, begs the question what ISN'T considered a sin anyway?

And I'm HOPING we can remain intelligent and civilized about this topic to avoid it being locked as well, because for once I'd like to see an intelligent conversation take place here without us getting carried away at trying to get our points across and/or trying to contradict other people's points.
 

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I'm pretty sure everyone here is smart enough and intelligent enough to know that the term "sin" regards wrong doing in the eyes of the Lord.
Oh yeah, I didn't intend to imply otherwise. :smile:

It also, now that we've delved so deeply into the subject, begs the question what ISN'T considered a sin anyway?
Hmm...honestly, I don't know if I want to get into that. I'll wait and see how the conversation goes. But anyone else can feel free, in a respectful manner. :smile:
 
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