The Muppets Episode 3 - Bear Left Then Bear Write

[Muppet Master]

Why are people still hating on the new muppet show episode 3 did not seem to me to have anything bad to it. I would rather watch this show then a show like family guy.

Ugh, the hate for this show is getting annoying. Oh no the muppets are drinking, they have not done that before.

The very image of an alcoholic beverage in something as innocent as the muppets would be atrocious.

After Sesame Street, Jim Henson began to delvelope a series that would become just as successful, so in 1976, he launched a new children's series for children called The Muppet Show. His goal was to be as wholesome and clean as possible.

Kids were entertained, and it was all good.



This new muppet show is against everything Jim Henson worked for, the thought of having mild sexual references, and one use of the h**l in one episode is an abomination to everyone who has ever worked with the muppets. Please do not let this abomination of the muppets get into your viewing range, instead chose more wholesome options like The Big Bang Theory, so we can all forget about this.

 

[MUPPETFAN1976]

Why are people still hating on the new muppet show episode 3 did not seem to me to have anything bad to it. I would rather watch this show then a show like family guy.

Yes! I absolutely agree! This show is better than Family Guy and that's a fact!

 

[CensoredAlso]

Ugh, the hate for this show is getting annoying. Oh no the muppets are drinking, they have not done that before.

I addressed this earlier (no problem if you didn't see). It's a question of class. It's one thing to show Kermit and Piggy as two adults drinking wine during a romantic dinner. This new show would think it's funny to have Piggy fall off the chair drunk while Kermit makes a rude comment that's supposedly funny.

Guys, seriously, we "haters" have been watching the Muppets our entire lives. We are aware that they're not just for kids. That is precisely why we aren't that impressed with this show, because we don't feel it's particularly adult. I don't know how else we can explain it.

 

[drteethcool]

I addressed this earlier (no problem if you didn't see). It's a question of class. It's one thing to show Kermit and Piggy as two adults drinking wine during a romantic dinner. This new show would think it's funny to have Piggy fall off the chair drunk while Kermit makes a rude comment that's supposedly funny.

Guys, seriously, we "haters" have been watching the Muppets our entire lives. We are aware that they're not just for kids. That is precisely why we aren't that impressed with this show, because we don't feel it's particularly adult. I don't know how else we can explain it.

Ok so what would you change about the show ?

 

[CensoredAlso]

Ok so what would you change about the show ?

I'd say learn a thing or two from other franchises that have successfully reinvented themselves, like the Transformers franchise (Transformers, not Bayformers!). Transformers Prime is a modern show that managed to explore more mature themes while still maintaining the innocence of the original G1 series. Hasbro has enough faith in, and understanding of, their product to keep what worked, nix what didn't, and expand on the possibilities of a new era. They're also aware that their audience doesn't want to meet strangers. They want the characters they've come to love.

 

[Drtooth]

hey dr. tooth. who says it's their last chance? You? Since when did your opinion suddenly become Word Of God? If this show got canceled and someone decided to bring them back later I'd want to see that too. Also people still by muppet merchandise today so cancelling this show won' suddenly cause muppet fans to stop wanting anything o do with them. I mean I still see Kermit the frog plushies dressed as santa claus at christmas time. :/

I wasn't going to bother replying anything in this thread, but this just stuck in my craw.

Do you really think if this show isn't successful, as well as the last movie not being one, Disney's going to keep making Muppet projects when they have far more successful properties to milk cash out of?

Okay, remember the last Muppet TV show? Remember how long ago that was? 20 years. Not for the lack of effort on Henson's part in the 00's, but there hasn't been a show since MT. To think that if this show doesn't succeed that Disney will say "Hey! Let's reboot them again in a couple years" is a little naive, wouldn't you say? Why should they even bother with a franchise that at best will sell a couple t-shirts when you have Star Wars and Marvel basically pooping out gold? The fact that they even tried another venue for the characters after the last movie bombed pretty much says they were last ditch. Seriously. I hate to say this, but there's a reason hard cor Disney fans and stock holders kinda hate the Muppets and Disney's acquisition of them.

At best, if this show doesn't do well, we're looking at maybe one or two Christmas specials we won't like anyway, and maybe a few years down the road a Made for TV movie that won't be that good.

All I'm saying is, I don't have the patience for another 20 year wait for a TV show that won't be successful and half the fanbase will hate.

 

[CensoredAlso]

there's a reason hard cor Disney fans and stock holders kinda hate the Muppets and Disney's acquisition of them.

I'm a stock holder and right now I kinda hate Disney for not having a clue what to do with the Muppets, lol.

 

[Drtooth]

And this is why I'm sick of defending anything.

Just...just stop watching. Watch the Flash. Everyone that hates this show because it's incredibly offensive somehow, just watch the Flash. Or your old VHS's. Just stop looking for crap to complain about. Chances are no matter what they do, half the fanbase isn't going to like it.

All I can say for this:

I'm a stock holder and right now I kinda hate Disney for not having a clue what to do with the Muppets, lol.

It's not like Henson knew what to do with them either.

I bring this example up every darn time and everyone's sick of hearing it, but MWO. That was a thousand times more offensive, non-Muppety, and poorly done than this show could ever be accused of. Why do I keep bringing this thing up? It's exactly what Henson would have done had they still had the characters. More crappy remakes of old stories that need not be remade peppered with juvenile humor that makes even the worst, most awkward joke in this current show look sophisticated. All starring D list celebrities that can't act their way out of a tissue paper bag. Disney not knowing what to do with the Muppets? Henson doesn't know what to do with Henson. Unless it's a CGI series, they can't get one project off the ground or to last more than a week.

Why am I so defensive, you ask? Well, everything the haters are saying...

They've been saying since 1991. And I get the dang point. God knows we've been bludgeoned with it long enough.

That said, I personally hope whatever the next Muppet project is, it's as saccharine and syrupy as LTS was. You know, the one where Gonzo mopes around like Eeyore for 40 minutes?

 

[CensoredAlso]

Again, you're not the only one defending something here. No offense, we're cool and all, but quit being the Muppet martyr.

 

[MuppetsRule]

Ugh, the hate for this show is getting annoying. Oh no the muppets are drinking, they have not done that before.

The very image of an alcoholic beverage in something as innocent as the muppets would be atrocious.

Well, if you can't see the difference in context between Kermit and Miss Piggy having a drink while getting to know each other in the Muppet Movie and the Muppets going out and getting totally plastered, not showing up for work or showing up for work hungover as in tonight's episode there's really no point in discussing this anymore. There's a big big difference in the character of the Muppets in the two scenes.

I kinda liken it to this. Remember the on-line videos of the Sesame Street characters doing obscene things that are out there? Bert and Ernie in bed together? Oscar flipping the bird? The supposed humor in those is the contrast between the innocence of the Sesame Street characters and the obscene gestures they are portraying. It's almost like that's what the writers are striving for. Fozzie as a thief. The Electric Mayhem as stoners. The Muppet gang getting plastered. I don't have a problem with edgy humor from the Muppets but so far I've seen mostly sophomoric humor and lazy writing. They can do much better.

And I'm kinda sick of anybody that is critical of the new show being labeled as non-Muppet fans. If anything, they are proving themselves to be very dedicated Muppet fans as they aren't willing to accept anything from the Muppets and care very much for how they are treated. It is possible to still love the Muppets and be critical of them at the same time.