40 movies you (might) regret showing your kids

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That's a relief...oh my...excuse the pun, lol.

 

[Drtooth]

I totally understand the redemption thing has been done a million times. I get they wanted to do a switch up of sorts. That's not what bothers me so much. I just don't like the idea of making Lotso even worse just to justify the ending they'd originally written. There's nothing wrong with sympathizing with an evil character and you're not going to stop that just because you make him worse.

As far as I'm concerned, he was always a monster. Having him do one nice thing at the end doesn't really make up for the fact that he's essentially an allegory of a white slaver. He was exploiting the other toys at the daycare center and making it a living nightmare for everyone who wasn't sucking up to him. He was a truly despicable character after he went insane.

Then again, Sid wasn't redeemed (he was traumatized by the other toys), neither was Stinky Pete (given to a little girl who draws on her toys). In fact... are there any Pixar villains that redeemed themselves? I mean that Richard Kind voiced Grasshopper in Bug's Life is all I can think of at the moment. Maybe the guy who turned into a bear in Brave after he was put to rest. Heck, I hear that things were going to be worse for Muntz in Up.

 

[D'Snowth]

I've only seen it once, and don't quite remember all the details, but I don't believe there was an actual villain in BRAVE, and I think it was the mother who got turned into a bear.

 

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As far as I'm concerned, he was always a monster. Having him do one nice thing at the end doesn't really make up for the fact that he's essentially an allegory of a white slaver. He was exploiting the other toys at the daycare center and making it a living nightmare for everyone who wasn't sucking up to him. He was a truly despicable character after he went insane.

Then again, Sid wasn't redeemed (he was traumatized by the other toys), neither was Stinky Pete (given to a little girl who draws on her toys). In fact... are there any Pixar villains that redeemed themselves? I mean that Richard Kind voiced Grasshopper in Bug's Life is all I can think of at the moment. Maybe the guy who turned into a bear in Brave after he was put to rest. Heck, I hear that things were going to be worse for Muntz in Up.

I get that one act doesn't make up for everything, but that is how it starts. Plus I don't really connect with Toy Story's idea of comeuppance anyway. The villain gets strapped to a truck at the end? Um OK, at least he's not dead, lol. When I first read about the truck, I didn't realize it was supposed to be a bad thing, lol. And frankly I was that little girl who drew on her toys. It was like a sign that they now belonged to me. My toys never complained!

 

[Dominicboo1]

Yeah I can't go with that at all. What the audience felt was perfectly natural. Empathy even for the worst of us is essential to us being human. There was no need to try and quash that.

I'm not sure I ever want to see Toy Story 3. Frankly, growing up I had my fair share of cartoons/live action kids specials all about forgotten toys and I'm not ashamed to admit they probably traumatized me for life, lol. Not sure I want to go through that again.

Now I'm not saying children's shouldn't see it. I recommend cartoons that challenge children emotionally. I'm just saying I'm not sure I want to revisit that moment in adulthood. Maybe at some point.

I agree! I sympathsize with many villains like Gollum from Lord of the Rings, Theodora in Oz the Great and Powerful, Lotso, and even Nicky Holiday.
:WHAT?! HE HAD ME ARRESTED!
Me:But he didn't want to be a villain...he just was one...