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Your Thoughts: Sesame Street Season 40

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Phillip, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    I'm seriously hoping that the street story carries the season finale this time, since the rest of each episode has followed a cookie-cutter format so far. If I had to sum up Season 40 in a single word, that word would be "anticlimactic".
  2. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    The series finale? O.O Sesame Street is ending completely? Say it ain't so!:concern:


    :D
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking in British again. I of course meant season.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Okay... did Roosevelt Franklin appear at the very very very beginning, a split second after the theme song? I either missed it or they edited it out. Very disappointed by them if they did.

    But overall a very cute story, Abby and Rosita work GREAT together. And Paul Rudd's Prince made the episode a lot more interesting than it needed to be. They let him bang his head on the wall with no complaints so far. other than the fact that it, like most of the episodes this season, felt deserted, a pretty good season finale.

    Again with the freakin' Abby threeruns. Well, I can confirm they only made 10. 10 doesn't divide well into 26. I'll go into this tomorrow, but I like the idea of Abby's Fairy School, and I don't even mind that it lasts almost 10 minutes. But the fact we've seen most of the episodes 3 times, not to mention that the new episodes without new material alternate with previous reruns... not smart at all.

    But HEY, we finally got another Ernie and Bert great adventure. Not one of their best (I really want to see the museum guard one in English), but at least it isn't another rerun of Murray from last year which they already ran twice. Again, I love the segment, but they didn't alternate enough between the two.

    Oh, and as much as I love (and prefer) the original Ten Tiny Turtles Talking on the Telephone, I have to say I dug the remake. All I'm sayin... if you can't make a decent new segment (something few and far between) just remake an old one. Chances are they wouldn't want to show that old one anyway.

    Tomorrow, I'm gonna post a complete season 40 wrap up.
  5. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    The season finale in review

    The good points:

    • Decent street story; kids need to know that just because they're playing pretend, it doesn't mean fantasy-world solutions help when something goes wrong "for real" in the game. (Taking a break from the nature/environmental theme was good too; I wish the Workshop had taken a few more thematic breaks during the "Healthy Habits for Life" years.)
    • Great melodramatic reactions by the prince; I'm reminded of the Muppet Prince Charming in Kermit's old Sesame Street News sketches.
    • The "ants at a picnic" letter sketches have a good balance between humor and lesson material; I hope to see 24 more over the next few seasons.
    • The "Ten Tiny Turtles" remake was OK as remakes go; the turtles and veggies looked reasonably close to Bud Luckey's originals, though I wish they hadn't tampered with the lyrics. (What on earth is wrong with "black-eyed peas" or "the ones that they call Brussels"?)
    The bad points:


    • I've said this in a lot of episode reviews, but.."Abby's Flying Fairy School" needs to be cut shorter next season.
    • Elmo's World: The topic (penguins) tied in with the story fairly well, but the emperor penguin's "Caesar" shtick and Bubba's Southern dialect humor went a little too far.
    • Tacking a "Healthy Habits" clip on after Murray announces the Things of the Day: OK, I can live with slipping one health lesson in per episode, but the placement feels wrong. Almost like some serial movie-maker putting up a "The End" title card, then adding a scene that belongs somewhere in the middle...:(
    All things considered: With the hit-and-miss quality Sesame Street has shown this season, I was half afraid to watch the finale; thankfully, the strong points of this episode outweigh the weak ones. On a 5-star scale, I'd give it 3 1/2 stars...five minus a star for the usual Season 40 problems, and minus another half star for rewriting those remake lyrics.
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I betchya WMG owns the rights to that band name, and now no one can ever say Blackeyed peas without having to pay them. :wisdom:
  7. Muppet Frog

    Muppet Frog Member

    I liked how we got to see Kermit twice this season and 6 girlfriend inserts were seen too.
  8. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member


    What do you mean by "girlfriend inserts"? I don't recall any regular characters this season having romantic relationships.
  9. Muppet Frog

    Muppet Frog Member

    What I mean is Zoe, Rosita and Abby all hanging out together.
  10. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member


    Got it--somehow I was thinking of characters like Count von Count's various girlfriends over the years.
  11. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    I was wondering the exact same thing. I didn't see any sign of RF. (Not to be confused with Don Knotts' charter Ralph Furley. Lol.) I wonder what was up with that.

    Hmmmm. I must have missed where they changed the lyrics. I did notice that they had a new singer there. His voice I really didn't care for. I wish they would have just played the original. Sure it might have cost extra, but I think it would have been worth it.

    I think that's the trouble, a 'girlfriends' episode didn't seem to be something that worked for the season finale. Besides, where was Zoe anyway? Probably out getting her haircut for next season. :)
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Season 40 wrap up

    I just can't put my finger on it... but the 40th season seemed to disappoint me somehow... whether it was the results of the dwindling budget, the unavailability of certain performers, the heavy amount of Elmo episodes (some he basically was shoved into when he wasn't even a useful character). Maybe it was all of it, maybe it was the abrupt format change... but whatever the reason, it felt uneven.

    Now, I can't complain about the street stories. They weren't the strongest written scenarios out there, but they weren't weak... not even middle of the road either. Only one I really didn't like was the camp out with Elmo and Chris one. One thing is for sure, and I said it before, the lack of many puppeteers on the same set and lack of kids and other extras made the show look like a ghost town half the season.

    I like the idea of the Hidden Gem fan shout outs, but some of them weren't fully thought out. Seemed that there was more stuff you can only see in HD, provided they were broadcast in widescreen, and weren't covered by the PBS logo... or folded up in a newspaper that you couldn't see. Seems a LOT of them were puppeteer cameos, and somehow it seemed more like, "If you want to take a break, can you do it on set, in front of the camera?" The appearances by older characters were great, just not used as much as they should have been. The Roosevelt Franklin cameo that was even used in a publicity photo seemed to be cut out. They really should have put more classic characters in crowd scenes or looking out windows or something. But anything was more interesting than sort of humming the Willy Wimple song halfway through the end, where it was unrecognizable.

    The celebrity and parody moments were pretty good... SW seems to have pulled the Jon and Kate parody, and I know that someone felt it was inappropriate, but I still wanted someone to nail the exploitative and voyeuristic series that SHOULDN'T be a headline. Liked D-Dance... liked the Special K parody of the Total commercials, liked the you only get this if you watch Sex and the City bit with SJP, LOVED Adam Sandler and Rickey Gervais. Adam hasn't been that funny since SNL, actually channeling his weird song writing bits from SNL. I'm pretty disappointed that Set your Piggys free was the anniversary celebrity edition of a song, especially since it was new. But I really think they could have done without Jason Unpronounceble Last Name's "Outdoors" song. I've been saying it for the longest time, but the celebrity parodies of their own songs don't have the same magic "Furry Happy Monsters" or "Wherever I see your Grouchy Face" or even "I really got a Hold on U" have, and seem like "Hey! Look Ma! I'm famous! I'm on the Sesame Place!" This one especially.

    Now, I said what I can say about Abby, but I think I should bring it back up. I LOVE the segment, I LOVE the idea, I even don't mind the 9 minute running time (it can clearly be pruned down a little to be 6 or 7 minutes), but when you have only 10 episodes done, you do NOT put them on every day in a 26 episode season. Repetition ONLY works if the segments are short, snappy 30 second-1 minute bits. Considering that they reran this season to bulk out 26 episodes, you'd tend to see reruns of reruns reran over and over. That REALLY detracts from rewatchability. I was half expecting to see everything twice anyway (like Murray had a Little Lamb) but three times a season in supposedly "New" episodes? Not a very bright cost cutting move. Too bad they had NO choice.

    And for that Matter, I REALLY wish they showed more Ernie and Bert Great Adventures than Murray had a little Lambs. The only thing new about them was the shortened intros. We saw all the Murray's twice last year, we still have yet to see Ernie and Berts.

    As for the tune in... I still think it's a bad idea. They're trying to turn Sesame Street into a block of disconnected programs to compete with the same junk. The difference is, those block programmings ARE actual blocks of programming, connecting full half hour shows together. SS does this artificially, and inconsistently. After all, SS is a single show. HOWEVER, I like Murray hosting the letters and numbers of the day. Now, I want to see that continued, but with NEW footage for next year. We can do without his guessing games (some of which were used a whopping 4 times), and give that time to shorter, older segments.

    The one ray of improvement is that this season had better new letter and number segments. Too bad there were few of them. Salty and Pierre? Brilliance. I hope they become official recurring non-Muppets like Teeny Little Super Guy, Noodles and Ned and the like. I even kinda dug the picnic ants army call. But the Sesame Street English Hello Kitty Flash animated versions of Cookie Monster and Elmo (in some cases, the only way Cookie was even on the show) were flops. Very bland, repetitive, and went on twice as long as they should have. And Annoying after a while.

    This season had some of the most repetitive use of segments I've seen, something that was disturbingly increasing with every season. Reruns of stuff we got sick of last season like "Pre-School Musical." At least they gave American I a 2 year wait before they reran it. As the 40th season, I wish they took some initiative and reused older segments. There's a LOT of stuff that's timeless that could fit in perfectly. But they squandered that potential, and gave us the dang Kids paint a Mural and boring Karen Aqua animations again. But less than previous seasons... that's good I suppose.

    But when it boils down the one thing that was disappointing was the lack of variety in characters. Now, I wonder what the availability for David, Eric, and Steve was (again, they're working with the Muppet Show characters too), and I think that could have been a big problem. Matt is helping Jerry's Characters stay on the show... but it really felt like they had to film a bunch of episodes in one day, and only certain puppeteers would be paid if they stayed late. Again, deserted ghost town. They could have at LEAST used them in older segments. We had a couple Cookie Monsters in street stories and one Grover, and a few separate segments with Grover, but Ernie and Bert didn't appear in ANY new footage, not even in the background silently. And it felt like there were no new characters this season. Ann Phibean, that's it.

    All and all, I really REALLY hope SS gets more money next year. They NEED all they can get to keep the show with original footage, and less stuff made for foreign markets (though they are welcome) in the series. Here's hoping that more people bought Sesame Street stuff for Season 41's budget. Had I the money, I'd get to Target and get all the Collect-a-pals and dollar section goods I can.
  13. InvaderZim

    InvaderZim Member

    More wiredness by ABC1-in #4197, "Everbody's Song" with Rocco Fiorentino aired (which is actually in #4207).
  14. No new E&B sketches

    Nor have the dynamic duo appeared in new footage in the last few years... at least in no new sketches... :mad: :cry:
  15. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    It's pretty sad if you think about it. 2 of the show's most core muppets - maybe they did get evicted from 123 after all huh?
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Again, it all depends on the availability of Steve and Eric. The only footage that had Steve in it was the 10 second Kermit cameo. Eric was Grover a couple times... that's about it. After all, Disney really WANTS to relaunch the characters, and we've seen a major effort the past year. It could very well be the case that Steve and Eric were busy with appearances and web videos, and unable to come in to perform them. And, again, if The Cheapest muppet Movie gets filmed during SS's filming season, we're likely to see a LOT less of characters by them and David (possibly Matt Vogel).

    Of course, there was no reason to have them silently in the background somewhere. I'm all for one Muppet one voice... but that's ONLY when they're talking.
  17. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Well-Known Member

    Well, Dave seemed to be pretty active this year. I mean Baby Bear got quite a bit of airtime and we've even got Cookie Monster in a few street scenes, so it's possible that he'll still be around. After all, how many Muppet Show characters does he perform? I know he's taken over as Scooter and Janice, so maybe you're right. We'll have to wait and see how things turn out next season.
  18. InvaderZim

    InvaderZim Member

    Does David Rudman voice Cookie in the insert for "T" (taken Sesame Street English)?
  19. antsamthompson9

    antsamthompson9 Well-Known Member

    I fanally was able to catch two episodes this season and while they're entertaining, the fullscreen is really crappy. I mean, Elmo asking which tool is the shape of the letter C, and we only see part of it. The kids would think, "That's not a C, that looks like part of an O." I know D'Snowth doesn't like widescreen, but he should realise how much better it is.
  20. InvaderZim

    InvaderZim Member

    On #4208 in Australia the E&B segment "Adding,adding,adding" wasn't aired-E&B doing "ding along song" was played instead.


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