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Should Sesame Street continue?

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Katzi428, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Active Member

    It's okay, Kathy. I see what you're saying and I can sort of see both sides. With all that's been going on, it may seem like the street has seen it's days, but considering this is one of the longest-running childrens' shows watched by people all over the world, I don't think they're considering cancelling. I'm sure they knew in advance that puppeteers/human cast members or whoever weren't going to be around forever, so I'm sure the producers saw this coming. They just didn't think it would be quite so soon. But there were shows like Mr. Rogers, Captain Kangaroo (I can't think of too many others) that were able to continue even with so many cast changes, so there's no reason it shouldn't be the same with Sesame Street. Sure it won't be the same as it was without Jerry, Kevin, etc. Then again, it hasn't been the same as it was when Jim, Richard, Mr. Hooper and all those people were around either. I guess you just have to keep going. Recall the Jim Henson quote: Take what you've got and fly with it.

    I've actually seen an ad for that in a magazine rack in the store where I work. I might want to check that out again.
  2. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Active Member

    Well, you never know. After all, Miles was recently written out of the cast and his disappearance was never really explained, so I don't know. It's sort of the same with Bob. I kind of agree with what Dwayne mentioned about why they added Chris and Leela. I am a little concerned that they will gradually focus more on the younger cast members and sort of forget about the older ones. Though that would be quite sad and I really hope I'm wrong on that.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It really depends on if Bob fully retires from the show or not. Loretta keeps popping up from time to time, but she probably has that teaching job still. Sesame Street has the luxury of a fleeting demographic rule, so the older characters will go without notice to kids just old enough to start tuning in. Us old timers will feel any major shift, but if it's all new, not so much.

    Didn't they say Gabby and Miles left for college, though?
  4. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Miles was never established as leaving for college; Gabi was around after she graduated and mentioned school a few times, so she probably commutes or something (I mean, it's NYC, so getting around is easy as pie).

    I mean, Chris is only here to fill the void Miles left and has made his own unique mark. But as I've said, he seems to be more hammy than natural and that has affected Alan as well for some reason.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Wasn't the idea behind Chris (or at least his character) to try to bring in a modern-day David to the street?

    Other than that, sure he tends to be a little hammy, but then again, it seems like most young actors have a tendency to be so (Miley Cyrus being the worst offender), and that's kind of what has made him kind of a fun addition to the street, you can tell he enjoys being there on that show, which is something you don't see a whole lot of any more, especially when it comes to the youngens, who have gone from having sparkles in their eyes being on the street and mingling with the Muppets, to looking like they couldn't care less about being there.
  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    ...I could have sworn.

    Anyway, how come everyone's all, What about Bob and Susan when no one's asking about Mr. Hanford, Gedde Wattanbe, and all the others that weren't on the show that long that disappeared from the show with no in show mention. Especially the entire Around the Corner cast. I can't imagine any of the characters saying "Oh, I went to that store that Ruth Buzzi ran and she's still there."

    Bob and Susan are staples that have been with the show since the beginning, and I get that in case anyone points that out. But there are quite a few cast members that are no longer with the show for various reasons. Mr. Hooper was the only one they mentioned dying, but he was the only major character that died in production before he left.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    As far as Mr. Handford goes, honestly, I don't believe he must have left that much of an impression on me as a kid, because to be perfectly honest, when Alan was introduced, I don't remember ever questioning why, I just accepted it, I thought he was a great addition to the human cast, he quickly became one of my favorite humans, and still is. I give props to David Langston Smyrl though, I've seen him in a few other things, and he's a terrific, quirky character actor. Leonard Jackson's Handford was before my time. Same with Gedde Wattanbe, I was too young to remember him on the show (yet, ironically, I clearly remember a couple of teens they had in the early 90s, I forget their names, one of them displayed that stereotypical teenage trait of constantly being hungry, the other being like Carlo before Carlo came on).

    Like many others though, I just wasn't a fan of ATC, so I wasn't at all disappointed that they got rid of it... I know the reason they still kept Ruth Buzzi for a while afterwards because she was so funny and quirky, they wanted to hold on to her.
  8. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I like Chris, and was watching the show where he moved to Sesame Street was a real;y good show. He was suppost to be looking for a job to help pay books for school.
    As far as Gabby and Miles, I don't know why but Miles never really seem to fit in to me. Gabby on the other hand really seems to love being on the street.
    To me I think they should stick with what they have been doing slowly adding newer younger people to the street, and give them a very useful reason for living on the Street.
    I loved watching Gina adopting Marco. It was a story that was focased on one of the humans it had emotion to it, and everyone really seemed like they lived on the street.
    I would love to see more shows like that because it give the Muppets more chances for comedy then having to be the focus point for the "drama"
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    Seriously... Gedde came and went on the show. He did somethings here and there, and it was a break from playing retrospectively racist characters in 80's movies. But he didn't last all that long and he was long forgotten by anyone who watched it then. Even in the 70's, characters other than the mainstays lasted a couple seasons before they moved on. No explanation (that I can remember) was ever given to anyone except David and Mr. Hooper. But we do notice when a large mainstay like Linda leaves the cast or like Bob who appears far fewer times than ever before.
  10. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It's been that way, even with the kids... remember, during the ATC era of the show, we had Carlo, Tarrah, Lexine, that boy with the mullet-like hairdo (can't remember his name), among a few others, all of whom were gone by Season 30, with the exception of Tarrah, who remained for maybe another season or two, similar to Ruth Buzzi (of course, there was that article posted here recently that explained Carlo Alban was actually an illegal during his time on the show).

    For one season afterwards, there was another wheelchair girl who seemed she was going to be a replacement for Tarrah (Emily, I believe her name was), but again, she was there for just one season.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's funny how the kids are more replaceable than the adults. Other than Gordon, and even then it was early on in the show's run, the adults were never recast. Not to mention, they stayed much longer most of the time. It's actually pretty funny. We don't have any recurring kids in Sesame Street anymore. Just extras that never really say anything.
  12. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Active Member

    I must say that while Times have change, I do agree one thing remains constant on Sesame Street and that's the overall mission of the show: to educate the children in the most unique way possible.

    So to me while it may be tough to deal with the lost of such great characters in our time, the show must sadly go on.
  13. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well for me it's not just the loss of characters, it's the quality of the writing in general. I'm just not sure it's there anymore. And again it's understandable for such a long running show. I don't except SNL to be ground breaking comedy like the way it was in the beginning. Television just runs these wonderful shows into the ground until there's nothing left.
  14. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I beg to disagree! The writing is very much still there for the street scenes anyways. the stories have been very good(not all of them but some)
    Grover has really started shining again, and other inserts have also been very well done. The Music is also still very good for a kids show.
    Sesame is also a big voice for children and helping them deal with issues that no other kids show dares to touch, such as divorce. This is a huge step for Sesame and it is going to help families and kids learn how to deal with the issue.

    My point is this: Yes Sesame should continue,they are still doing a wonderful job at what they do.
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  15. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    If other people like it, that's great. I just don't see it and I think my kids would benefit more from earlier seasons.

    I do see a show that's trying, certainly. But I see a show that's merely bright and bland the way most kid's show are today. ::shrugs:: Agree to disagree. :)
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I can't even blame the writers. I think there's more blame on the producers that are goading the writers to follow a curriculum that focuses on one major initiative. The fact that there were 2 and 3 "guessing game" type episodes and they are starting to follow strict episodic formulas bothers me, but I really think the writers want to branch out. When there's a parody segment, they let them loose and they do a very good job. Even Elmo the Musical has some snappy writing to it. It's not so much the writing is bad, it's inconstant. They need more fun episodes to let the writers loose and less "This is what this is, that is what that is" formula episodes.
  17. DancingQueen

    DancingQueen New Member

    Does anyone else kinda feel like it's impossible for us to even judge whether or not the show should continue at its present rate? I mean, I personally loved the show in the 90's, whereas a lot of you would say it started going downhill in the 90's. The point is, the show today is being created for the kids in pre-school today, and geared toward what they expect out of a TV show, which, even if kids haven't changed in 20-40 years, what they expect on TV CERTAINLY changes. So the question for me really becomes, is it doing its job in that sense? Is it a good show for kids given what THEY expect out of a kids show? Any show that goes on as long as Sesame Street has to adapt to a changing audience, even a show where a new audience comes up every few years. As sad as it would be if the show permanently lost Susan or Bob, and the show made no mention of it, the show CAN continue without them, as it has continued without the dozens of others (including and especially Jim Henson, whose contribution can certainly never be matched or replaced) who've come and gone, both regulars and less-common characters. Sad but true. In short, I don't think I'm a fair judge as to whether or not the show should continue, and I don't think many of us are. The bottom line is, "do children continue to benefit from watching it, both entertainment-wise, and educationally?" Just because it doesn't entertain us anymore doesn't mean it's of no use to a child....
  18. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Thing is there's a difference between change and a lowering of quality.

    I do question how useful it is educationally at this point. Just because kids like a popular character doesn't mean they're learning anything.
  19. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I wonder that most of the time, if kids really get the message of each segment. I'd love to sit in on the testing process and see how kids react, like this (see 2:51):

  20. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Wow, children laughing at a character other than Elmo. Who knew?! :super:


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