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Review of the NEW Muppets.com

Discussion in 'On the Web' started by GelflingWaldo, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    My Review of Muppets.com
    :) :) (2/5 Kermits)

    After 60+ days of watching a countdown, the new Muppets.com is finally here (although 2.5 hours later than said)! The site which is now maintained and created by the Muppet Holding Company, instead of The Jim Henson Company is a sight to see. When you first visit the site you are welcomed by a simple “splash page”. It has a simple greeting, a picture of the core-Muppets busting out, and the new Muppets logo, created and used by the Muppet Holding Company. This is the logo we will probably be seeing on any new merchandise by the MHC for a while. It is a nice image of Kermit and bubbly letters. There is then a link to enter the site, which is a flash animated marvel. People on slow internet connections beware, it may take a while to load the site and the sections.


    Main Gate / News Stand
    The first place you visit is entrance to Muppet Studios. This features the Muppet Newsstand in front of the arch way into the studio lot. The news stand showcases the Muppet Newsman (who is nice to see again) and the “latest news”. Like many corperate sites, this should not be your first place to go for news, the information they share will probably be a few days (even weeks or months) behind other places on the web (such as Muppet Central). Hopefully they keep the news coming. If you’re looking for the biggest inside scoops on upcoming things this will most likely not be the best place, as most of the news has been known for months by hard-core fans.

    The site is highlighted by real videoed Muppets that appear with greetings, jokes, and information. This section features Kermit and Rizzo popping up to talk about the site and whatnot. These are new videos and are quite cool to see they went to the trouble of recording the actual puppets just for the site. You may also notice Scooter on a golf cart wiz by in the back. If you go to the map you can jump to the other areas, one nice gag on the map is the fork in the road, and one of the only references to The Muppet Movie. You can see the new logo for the Muppets Wizard of Oz (and when you click for more information you get some old news and two new concept sketches for the film) There is also a "Sow in the City" parody with Piggy at the news stand.

    Studio Lounge
    Next on our tour of Muppets.com we come to the studio lounge. You’ll see Bunsen, Beaker, Animal and Pepe hanging out (although like many images of the Muppets these are taken from standard stock photos that any Muppet fan has seen before); and a videoed Fozzie pops in with a joke. This section features three games for you to play. Bunson/Beaker’s game, remix game, and four-arm pepe. If you look closely the shelves in the room have a Bunson bust, and a Kermit doll.

    Soundstage
    Now we come to the soundstage where we see some chickens, Beaker, and a videoed Gonzo. This section has FX lab and some not-so-new Muppet Wizard of Oz information.

    Miss Piggy’s Trailer
    At this time the section is not available, it will be coming soon…we hope.

    Muppet Stuff
    The Muppet Stuff section is quite nice. You can scroll though six different wallpapers to download for your computer. There are 6 AIM buddy icons to grab. A screen save download is coming soon. There are also links to Muppet merchandise and desktop themes.. A videoed Ms. Piggy will pop in, and if you look closely you’ll see some familiar muppet products on the shelf (like the best of the Muppet Show DVD, The Muppet Movie DVD, Muppet Family Christmas, Dr. Bunsen Bust, Lunch Box, and more.

    El Muppetana
    At this time the section is not available, it will be coming soon…we hope.

    Central Casting
    This section features information on some of the Muppet themselves. Sam the Eagle is shown at a desk and if you click on the filing cabinet your will have access to Muppet profiles. These only cover the main core-Muppets, so don’t expect to see information on Lew Zealand, Crazy Harry, Uncle Deadly, Wayne and Wanda. Even characters such as Robin, and Sweatums are left out. There information here is fun and entertaining, but nothing new or real useful (just stuff like Rizzo's favorite food). Behind Sam at the desk is a picture on the wall of Jim Henson and Kermit – this is the only time a Muppeteer is mentioned (or seen) on the site. If you click on the picture a quote from Jim pops up. I’m disappointed that there is not more about the puppeteers on the site. You’ll also notice the pictures on the wall change, and showcase some of the more patriotic or artistic images from the Muppets.

    Club Mayhem
    Here you can see the Electric Mayhem in action, well kind of. Four of the Band members are shown on stage playing a techno-ish song, while other Muppets watch. A videoed Animal pops up. The sad thing is both Zoot and Lips are left out of the band here. You have access to the remix game from the Studio Lounge here too. The music and animation on the band are quite annoying and cheap. However outside the club, before you enter you will notice some animated Muppet penguins and a clever parody of the iPod ad campaign featuring the Electric Mayhem.

    Muppet Records
    At this time the section is not available, it will be coming soon…we hope.

    Swedish Chef’s Kitchen
    At this time the section is not available, it will be coming soon…we hope.

    Conclusion
    The site is beautiful. Full of animations, sounds, live Muppets and fun. But once you get past the appearance of the site, it is quite a disappointment. You can’t judge a book by it’s cover. This site looks awesome, but has no real content, and the little content it has is a disappointment. There are some things missing from the site.

    There is no historic pieces, nothing about the Muppets as a franchise and what they have done over the years. There are no references to previous Muppet projects. Not once was the Muppet Movie, or the Muppet Show mentioned on the site. There is no information or mention about any of the productions (movies, TV shows, specials) except the Muppets Wizard of Oz.

    There is also no mention (aside from a small picture and quote of Jim) of any Muppeteers. Disney likes to keep the characters as the character, so any “behinds the scenes” information looks grim. It looks dismal that any information or even mention to Steve, Dave, Bill, Frank, Brian, Eric, or any of the others will be found here. Even Jim Henson has no real mention here or his impact on the Muppets.

    The site features many Muppets, but it is missing so many of them. Famous Muppets like Robin, Pops, Lew Zealand, Crazy Harry, Zoot, Lips, Beauregard, Sweatums, Bean, and many, many more. Even Statler, Waldorf, Rowlf, don’t show up.

    The news department is dismal on the latest and greatest breaking and indepth news, but like many “ official sites” it will not be the place you go for the latest news of what is going to happen – this is something many could tell you before the site even opened. They’ll concentrate on what has happened or what is happening. Places like Muppet Central will still be the best places to go for the latest breaking news.

    The site is very 21st century Muppets, and most references to projects from the Muppets from the “Henson-days” are lacking. The Muppet Show, The Muppet Movie, Muppet Tonight, Tales from Muppetland, Muppet Treasure Island, The Great Muppet Caper, Muppet Babies; forget seeing information or many references to them. The site is based off the characters and their personalities, very little about what they have done.

    Hopefully they keep the site up to date. I would hate to see “The Muppet Wizard of Oz coming soon” still there in July 2006, or the “Muppet Stamps coming soon” in April. I hope they add more information on the existing Muppet catalog and the works. I hope they give the Muppeteers some recognition.

    It is a fun and flashy site. I enjoyed exploring and playing around the site, there were some real fun and breathtaking things. But the site lacked real content that would make me want to return for a second look or reference (except to see if they updated it). The site is beautiful and fun to explore and watch, but lacks real content, and lacks the depth and allusions a hard-core Muppet fan would desire. Over all, for a cooperate website promoting a franchise I’m not surpised by what I see, but it is still no competition for places like Muppet Central and other fansites which really understand the Muppet fans.
  2. bobhopesite

    bobhopesite Active Member

  3. What do you mean wow cool? He ripped the site apart.
  4. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    I explored it and expressed my opinion. I feel the site is the most beautiful, awesome looking experiances I have ever seen; it is a true work of art; but websites are more than looks, they need information and content to back it up. This site lacks real content and information on the Muppets and their projects. It is driven on the characters and their personalities, but ignores most of their great works, many of the great characters, and shares no usful information for someone interested in the Muppets. I am not that disapointed by it (it's pretty much what I expected), I just think that once you look past the flashing animation, videos, and backgrounds- it is a really weak site when you boil it down.

    This is just my impressions and opinons, you can disagree with me. I'm just stating my thoughts on the site.



    I forgot to mention this in the review so I'll say it here:

    The site also lacks much information on the company and the busniess end of the Muppet Holding Company (which this site also is representing). There is no feedback or contact links. So if you want to contact them for any reason here is the information they left out.

    Address:
    The Muppet Holding Co.
    1201 Grand Central Avenue
    Glendale, CA 91201


    Phone: 818.549.2018 (The Muppet Holding Company Office)

    E-mails:
    debbie.mcellan@disney.com (The Muppet Press Center)
    customerservice@disney.com (Disney Customer Service)
  5. christyb

    christyb New Member

    here's my two cents :) .
    1) It's about time :smirk:
    2) Very nice!! :D
  6. floydnjanicefan

    floydnjanicefan Active Member

    Hey, that is a nice review! I am guessing that Rowlf will be in the Muppet Records section, and it says that Statler and Waldorf will be in the section with Fozzie. Hopefully the other characters will be added in time (especially Zoot, Robin, and Sweetums)

    I really like the site though, it is a lot of fun...
  7. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    I know, I've been playing the games for...well lets just say longer then I should.

    I just hope they get more content to it.

    For example the soundstage area has a link to the bunson&beaker game (which you can get in the lounge) and a link to information on the Oz production (which is the same thing you can get at the main gate). The Club Mayhem is just a link to the remix game (which you can get through the lounge too.)

    The site is cool and fun, but there is nothing real substantial there to make me want to keep going back.
  8. There is still stuff not ready to go up yet though. 4 whole sections aren't up, 2 of which still say coming soon. It looks like El Muppetan looks like it will have movie clips, or possibly new muppet segements only on the site. The sound stage looks like it has some kind of Gonzo feature not up yet. There is the Chef kitchen which could have anything. Then there is the Miss Piggy's Trailer section not yet up that could have behind the scenes stuff. I don't think it's fair to review it yet. It's really only half done.

    Oh, and let's not forget Muppet Records which is not up yet. I assume that will be like the muppet jukebox from the wold site.
  9. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    When they go up I'll review them and update my stance. But as of now, I am not that impressed with the content of the site. (I am still in awe of the look and media though)
  10. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    I can't seem to get it to come up. Oh well. :)
  11. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    To be brutally honest, you spent so much time complaining about it before it actually launched that i'm not surprised its a dissapointment. They could have put everything up there and it still wouldnt have been the Encyclopedia Muppetania people for some reasons had in there minds from looking at a coming soon screen.

    It's an ok site - it serves a purpose, to highlight future stuff that will make money for the company. Yes it is more about look but thats what you get with glossy official sites nowadays. It's pretty much the same as Muppetworld always was, there is little difference.
  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    We're people expecting something more akin to thesimpsons.com or starwars.com ? There isn't much to report in Muppetland.

    Thankfully Disney, I mean the "Muppet Holding Company"(tho holding implies a release eventually) has kept in the feel of Muppety mayhem. Pepe is still a womanizer, Sam Eagle is still a right wing nut. So it's all good.

    Btw, is it me or are you and I the only 'grown ups' here Luke? heh
  13. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    I was really pleased with the site i felt like the muppets now have a home. a place they work and eat and play. i like that the homey feeling. it also has a classy but to the present kind of look and the videos of the muppets on everything was also ver very cool. i really dint like muppet world but i really like this. i showed the site to my mom she said it was to kidish. well i didnt think so i thought it was more family not kidish at all.
    But hey my mom also thinks that this web site is strickly for aduts and i had to try and explain that one to.

    All in all Good Job on the site sorry i complaind about it being late.

    Speaking of that im going to write Muppet Holding Co to say im sorry to becaus i said some preety mean things on here about them and i know they probly dont care but i will feel better about it.
  14. AlaskaMuppetFan

    AlaskaMuppetFan New Member

    to much grouching

    sure its not what you want as great muppet fans but lets get real. disney has never really be forth coming with new info about thier movies to begin with and thier web site itself leaves something to be desired. in reality the muppet site is exactly like thier miane site and that is the way it will always be! ;)
  15. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    I'm not disapointed, the site is exactly what I expected them to make since day one...exactly. The review is not to compain about the site. It is to point out and show that is is just another of thoses glossy official sites, and it is nothing special.

    I do however wish and hoped it could have been some more, something better; but deep down I knew that a glossy, flashy and hallow site is what we would be getting.

    Before it actually launched I was not compaining about the site, what the site would have, or would be - I was compaining about The Muppet Holding Company, and their decete and trickery in their customer service and manners when going about launching this site and the debacle of the incorrect counter. I had nothing against the site.

    I still have nothing against the site, I just think they had an oppertunity with a lot of potential and missed it compleatly.
  16. Decete and trickery? Are you kidding me? Dude, it's a muppet web site that didn't go up in time due to some kind of delay. That's all. You want to talk about decete and trickery look at the Bush administration.
  17. christyb

    christyb New Member

    Whoa now are we talking Muppets or Politics. LoL :)
  18. DanDanStrawberry

    DanDanStrawberry Active Member

    Thing is though- like it or not- the Muppets are now being aimed at kids. That is why so many of the jokes are changing, as are the characters. That is probably why Disney bought them; Muppets are now aimed at kids. This of course, doesnt mean that adults cant enjoy them. Another interesting fact. I dont know if its just that kids over here are a lot more naive than those in America; but I didnt find out Kermit was just a green sock till I was 10. If they go round posting they're operated by people then it will probably break a few kids' hearts. Or at leaast thats my suggestion

    On an unrelated topic- words cant express how excited I was to see the Newsman in the NewsStand!!! It was just like, he was never in any of the movies I've seen so why should they count him! I was awestruck (and still am to be honest!!)
  19. christyb

    christyb New Member

    So essentially what your saying is that we're keeping it to "don't tell them that Santa Claus doesn't really exist" type thing. Hmm...I agree at that, but I don't see why Disney (oops Muppet Holding Co.) would have to change the jokes. The formula of humor for both adults and kids worked before why can't it work now?
  20. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo New Member

    I don't remember ever not knowing they were puppets (and I've been seeing Muppets since birth), and even though I did know it never broke the illusion - it only made me more interested and impressed by the work.

    Disney likes to keep the characters in character on their sites. For example, if you go to the Lizzie McGuire website not once will you see mention of Hillary Duff (the star of the show), it is all Lizzie this and Lizzie that. I think they want to keep the Muppets the Muppets and not show them as something/someone else. I don't really like that but I think we won't see information on Steve, Dave, Bill, Brian, Eric, Kevin or the others. Likewise I think information on Jim, Frank, Richard, and Jerry either.
    :(

    I was excited about seeing him too too, when I first saw him it made me happy to see he was not forgotten. I wish they put more Muppets like him thoughout the site. He was in one of the movies; in The Great Muppet Caper he shows up with a special Muppet News Flash!


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