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Fozzie Muppet Replica delayed

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by Phillip, May 21, 2008.

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  1. Was Once Ernie New Member

    Travis,

    Thank you for everything you did and tried to do at Master Replicas. Your efforts are really appreciated, despite all the griping we do here.

    Welcome back to the forum as one of us fans again, but I hope you find something rewarding to do with your talents very soon.

    Your Pal,
    Earl
  2. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Hi Travis. You have been with the Muppet brand at both Palisades and Master Replicas. Terry, you and MR all achieved the impossible in giving fans these stunning pieces. I am surprised that there was enough interest to get through the initial three released. That is a testament to the wonderful job you guys did. I rag on the pictures and some of the details, but I look at these fellas everyday and am thankful to have them.

    Thank you Travis for all you have done and keep us updated about what interesting place you end up in the future. You clearly have the passion, skill and drive in this area! :)
  3. muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Travis and good luck for the future.
  4. muppetguy Member

    Travis...

    It's so good to know that you will still be visiting us once in a while. I wish you and your family the best in these times. You have always been great and I know you always will. Thanks for putting up with millions of question! You're the best and I'm very happy to own Kermit, Animal and Gonzo. I just hope that one day, Fozzie will be out and the line can continue with Piggy.

    Thanks again for everything you've done for all of us muppetfans:);)
  5. antonydavanzo New Member

    What a really poor reason to not make Fozzie, IMO the god awfull images and displays MR produced would drive any retailer off the product. How can MR tell that Fozzie had no interest? Would it not be easier to make a limited run and sell him directly from MR? I am kinda peed that he will not be made, I know this has not been said but who really thinks he will? I dont. Shame on you MR for wasting a good oppotunity here.........the Muppets are making a come back and you are retiring them :mad: Oh and I dont really buy into the whole global econamy bull.......yeah people are a bit skint at the mo but the people who want Fozzie will still buy him...Just make the bear for us crazed fans :D
  6. MuppetCaper Active Member

    Poor Terry had to make three of these bears. I know that he probably got paid for them, but to go no where for production just sucks. It's like building a building and leaving it empty for years. I hope Terry is also doing ok as well.
  7. Telly Active Member

    I guess I'm going to start saving up for Animal now, since I haven't gotten him yet and Fozzie looks to be a no show. :(
  8. muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Fozzie Poll

    OK everyone, this is important.Master Replicas now have a poll on their website in their forum listing options ranging from make Fozzie, money is no option, to not buying him.
    For all those desperately wanting the Fozzie replica, please go to the forum and vote as that is what MR are looking at.Maybe we should have a simular poll here for those who arent members? I have now started a poll here in merchandise.We need 500 dedicated buyers who are prepared to pay whatever he works out to be for a smaller edition run.Then MR will start rolling.
  9. Telly Active Member

    OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS? They'll honestly MAKE HIM if they get 500 votes? I'm going to start saving my money!
  10. muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Yes, It is true.This is from MR.
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    It should be noted that using the Commander Gree example given that we would not be even 50% of the way towards hitting those type of numbers if we use the pre-sale numbers we received historically for Gonzo and Animal. Sad as it may be the support via pre-sale has been very very low on this range and we have relied almost entirely on retail sales to deliver the required volume to make it viable.

    Trust us, if we had 500 pre-orders on this we could start things rolling tomorrow, however past experience has shown otherwise and entries in a poll and actions through a wallet are 2 different things.

    We are looking at alternatives and trust us, are speaking to the right people on this. There is as the old saying goes, more than one road to travel.

    One other thing, the patient is not dead until pronounced by a Doctor and NOBODY qualified has made that pronouncement, they have just been honest to the family in the waiting room. Let’s all try and stay positive!
    __________________
  11. Telly Active Member

    I don't mean to be skeptical, but I was thinking about it this morning. If they had 500 pre-orders, they could magically find a factory all of a sudden? :search:
  12. a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    Not in my case.... :D
  13. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    If they had 500 preorders for a solid price they could feel comfortable paying a higher fee for a higher quality factory that could handle Fozzie. This type of product is so specific that it takes a certain level of skill and that is where the other factories fell short - especially in the area of eye focus.

    I think Fozzie's issues are ones of head shape and facial proportions. If the subtleties are off the sales will be too and they'll have a back stock of the bear to keep the loads of Gonzos and Animals company. Now, don't believe for a second that those products will be gathering dust. That is not how the industry works. Basically a wholesaler purchases the un-sellable stock, usually at a loss to the company selling it. They sit on it for a while, create scarcity and end up making a slower long-term profit. That doesn't help MR much. That makes Gonzo and Animal money-losers and it doesn't inspire interest in future Muppet replicas.

    I think they should put out a more expensive limited edition Fozzie and then focus on making the Muppet moments figurines (but scrap the Mayhem designs other than Janice and maybe Zoot). More detailed and authentic-looking Muppet figures on par with the fantastic Disney stuff they release are ideal. I can see a Rowlf the Dog playing his upright piano with his ears in mid-flop and the official theme sheet music in front of him. That's more of a money-maker. There's a scarcity of Rowlf figures in general - and few that people are happy with. There are many more ideas of that sort that could turn the Muppet brand around at Master Replicas in this new era of Disney's Muppet push. They already hold these rights - they should exploit the frog out of 'em!
  14. muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Market Test Pre Order

    I dont think they are really looking at the moment.MR did say that they arent going onto the next level till more interest picks up.They said if they had 500 definate orders they could start tomorrow so they must have something in mind.I have put a suggestion over at the MR forum to work out a price on a 500 edition run and do a Market Test Pre Order.If we know it is subject to cancellation, we wont jump up and down (I hope:o)if they cant get the numbers, knowing that they have given it a chance.
  15. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    Nor mine! After all, it is Fozzie Bear we're talking about here. I can't afford to bjuy more than one, but I definitely will buy one! :o

    BTW, I did post on MR Forums and asked if they could tell us how many pre-orders there are so we can get more on board. I think if we knew how close the 500 number is, it could push folks into pre-ordering.

    Were there ever any pictures of the Muppet Moments figurines? It would be nice to have Muppet figurines similar to the Disneyana collections we used to sell for premium prices at The Disney Store in the early 1990's.
  16. frogboy4 Inactive Member

    The ones in the middle are MR's proposed Mayhem prototypes. I just don't see the reason for them. They would likely be pricier than the figures were (or maybe even pricier than an Ebay Zoot), but they don't have the attention to detail the figures had. You would think the lack of articulation would cause them to have more fluidity of form, but that is not the case except for Janice. These poses are merely lifted from the licensing stock art. There were ways to make these really cool that weren't explored. I think the Rowlf idea was best. Fozzie slipping on a banana peel would also be a good pose. A Bunsen and Beaker experiment where they could actually create a fun full-bodied expressive scene with transparent flasks and tiny singe marks would be fun too. I do like the Mayhem, but these stiff poses make me think they should be salt and pepper shakers or something. MR really went the wrong way with these. There's an exciting and marketable wealth in such moments that they should exploit while they retain the rights to do so!
  17. Fozzie Bear Moderator

    I have to agree with you, Froggy. Those are...I mean they're nice and all, but a company like MR making something that's so stiff looking. They look posed. They don't look like they can just get up and start doing something. After the beautiful posers they've made that you feel like Kermit, Gonzo, and Animal should just start talking, these look so dead. I hope before they go to the expense of making them they get a new prototype done with more of a Muppety action.
  18. Kevin Knight New Member

    HOLY MOLY! I go away to patiently wait for factories, twidle my thumbs till a three month away pre-order date is announced, whistle Dixie till good advertising photos are released and everything is topsy turvy!

    TRAV-DADDY! Bro, dude, daddy! Well you fought the good fight my friend. Now it's taking care of baby Mr. Mom. Hopefully you have some prospects. Your customer relation skills are A++++. Good attitude, and your good people. Best Wishes, and welcome back to fandom land. ****!

    i am going to make this as brief as I know how. I only heard about the Kermit poser through MC. I only ever saw one at a Newbury comics retail store, where they jacked his price to $330. You think they would get in an agreement and market these posers in Disney stores? Spencer gifts, Hallmark, Toys R Us, FAO Schwartz.

    I would be digging on a Muppet Show window display of the three current releases with even a cardboard cut out of the Fozzie proto. Red curtain, cardboard printed wood floor, a hanging cardboard printed Muppet Show sign with spotlights from above? With a plan-o-gram of how to and in which manner to pose them.

    Unless you are Muppet fanatic nutbag like us, or are immature forever scoping out Toy Review magazines and see the ads for MR distributors, who only do online, sell at geekfest conventions, and phone, you would never know about these products. I say this after being informed that there really was or is no marketing campaign for these items due to their high price point in the retail store market. Even if each Spencer's store bought just ONE each with a cardboard display. I can imagine what his price would be for a relatively low run, and against my better judgement, I would say YES. I WILL BUY ONE. But he better be perfect for the gamble.

    (How did I do? was that shorter than usual?)

    Kevin Knight

    Every :) needs his :o!

    One last time; everyone... BRING ON DA' BEAR!
  19. Bear Man Member

    Can't say I'm surprised. Disappointed, but not surprised. Now I just dislike Animal even more for taking up a slot that should have been filled by Fozzie. I doubt so much that he will ever be made now - I think Master Replicas will be interested in these polls, but not do much about them. After all, it's one thing to click a button that says you'd buy, and another thing to actually put up the money, and they know that. Also, there just is not the traffic through either of the forums to get 500 people to say they would pay an unstated amount of money to buy the product. Last time I visited the MR board it was a virtual ghost town, and there is not much new happening in this section of this board either (the rest of Muppet Central may be a different matter, I can't say as I'm not active in those other sections/threads, but activity here has definitely waned). I know personally I visit here less and less - really the only reason I even look any more was to see if there was an update on the replicas - now that they have officially been put into a hiatus that they have not much chance of coming out of, I doubt I'll be back much at all. And given that here and MR are pretty much the only places I would hear of the product making it to release, even if Fozzie did come out I probably wouldn't know to buy one...kind of a vicious cycle - they don't release/delay product, people stop asking for it after a while, then when it is ready to release they don't have the customer interest or knowledge so they don't release/delay the product...

    Ok, well if anyone hears any news about release, or Terry offers to sell a pattern for a Pointy-Headed Guy (I know he never would - that was a joke. But in reality that's all I would want, a foam head pattern and a fleece/fur covering pattern and I'd do the rest!) someone drop me a PM. Otherwise I'll stick my head in once a month or so and see what's up.

    Laters, gang!
  20. Muppets Mad New Member

    Hey guys

    I just wanted to say that i had already pre ordered fozzie bear from the collectors zone and i am a defenate buyer! I dont just want fozzie bear i NEED him as my kermit, animal and gonzo are lonely!

    Please dont tell me that they are not making him. they better do! Im so upset that this has happened as i was planning on buying every single muppet replica they dish out. So i hope it all still goes ahead.

    Does anyone know what is gonna happen with any other muppet future releases or has it stopped at the moment?:o

    Im desperate to keep my collection going as im sure most of you are. please let me know!:excited:

    love sammi xxx
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