Your Thoughts: New Green and Red Christmas CD

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

It is sad that Janice didn't sing more often. Janice often sang solo lines in Electric Mayhem songs, but she really didn't have any solos or lead-singing numbers untill late in the shows run, when she sang I Get By with a Little Help from My Friends (probably the closest thing she had to a solo number, though the rest of the band appeared at the end), Rockin' Robin (the only Electric Mayhem number where she was the lead singer), and It's in His Kiss (not really a lead-singing number, but she shared vocals with Linda Ronstadt and two namesless back-up singers, and it's her only major number with a guest star, so that counts for something).

She also sang the choruses with Floyd on "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover", and with him on "Sam's Song", aside from the solo-line ones you mentioned and the ones you didn't. I consider both "I Get By" and "Rockin' Robin" solo numbers for Janice (Dr. Teeth's "Go bird go!" and Animals' tweets hardly make that a "group" number for me---IMO they're pretty much just accompanying Janice, who sings practically the entire song herself---and I love every minute of it! ).

To try to get this subject back on topic, I was wondering if the booklet includes photos of Janice or any other characters who don't sing on this album.

Yeah, I'm sorry to have kept this thread off-topic, , but I've really enjoyed the discussion.

 

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I consider both "I Get By" and "Rockin' Robin" solo numbers for Janice

I really like Janice's rendition of "I Get By With a Little Help From My Friends." Actually, the whole sketch is kinda sweet the way the rest of the band comes to rescue her.

Sorry for the off topic again!

 

[minor muppetz]

She also sang the choruses with Floyd on "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover", and with him on "Sam's Song", aside from the solo-line ones you mentioned and the ones you didn't. I consider both "I Get By" and "Rockin' Robin" solo numbers for Janice (Dr. Teeth's "Go bird go!" and Animals' tweets hardly make that a "group" number for me---IMO they're pretty much just accompanying Janice, who sings practically the entire song herself---and I love every minute of it! ).

I forgot about those two numbers that I forgot to mention (though I think Janice is hardly noticable in Sam's Song). Yeah, I do consider Rockin' Robin to be sung by Janice with the band accompanying her. And hey, that's one of the few songs Janice sang in where Floyd didn't even get any vocals. And it features a great Lips solo, upstaging Floyd and Zoot (though I consider Lips' best moment on The Muppet Show to be his presence in the song Whenever I call You friend in the Melissa Manchester episode).

 

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

(though I think Janice is hardly noticable in Sam's Song).

I do. But then again, I love her so much that I'm always listening for her, lol. But really, she and Floyd are the only vocalists on it, and on my MP3 of the song you can hear her. And of course on the show you can see her, so it's easy to see where she's singing too. True, in some parts not as heavily volumed as Floyd (unlike "Can You Picture That?" where they're equal on the bridge), but still.

Yeah, I do consider Rockin' Robin to be sung by Janice with the band accompanying her. And hey, that's one of the few songs Janice sang in where Floyd didn't even get any vocals. And it features a great Lips solo, upstaging Floyd and Zoot (though I consider Lips' best moment on The Muppet Show to be his presence in the song Whenever I call You friend in the Melissa Manchester episode).

That is a good trumpet line...and just when I thought Janice finally had the EM member spotlight all to herself in the Lynda Carter episode with "I Get By", they went and gave Floyd a solo number in the same show! Ugh...I hated that. I was like come on, for one time, just let Janice be the only EM member to shine throughout the whole show. *sigh*...

 

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I really didn't like hearing how Dave Goelz competed with Richard for the character (when it was conceived as 1 instead of 2). I was like, come on Dave, you have two major characters, Boober and Uncle Matt. Richard only has Junior, and he's not even in most episodes!

Interestingly, Dave said Philo and Gunge's characters are the same. But when I watch, it seems to me that Gunge is always a little more tough and reckless than Philo. He's the one who first decides to leave the TrashHeap, and the first to be obsessed with stardom (as the Doozer's king).

As far as appearance, I thought Philo looked better personally. But it's not that important.

 

[Janice & Mokey's Man]

Interestingly, Dave said Philo and Gunge's characters are the same. But when I watch, it seems to me that Gunge is always a little more tough and reckless than Philo. He's the one who first decides to leave the TrashHeap, and the first to be obsessed with stardom (as the Doozer's king).

Yeah, it bugs me when someone involved directly with something like that doesn't see it like we fans see it---arrgh!

As far as appearance, I thought Philo looked better personally. But it's not that important.

You have got to be kidding me!

Really!

You have!

Okay, fine, fine, you have your own opinion...but I'm afraid I cannot room with you at a Muppet convention.

 

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Yeah, it bugs me when someone involved directly with something like that doesn't see it like we fans see it---arrgh!

Well, that's pretty typical. Actors perform a much of characters and move on. And while they may enjoy it, it's the fans who latch on and notice details. And I also think Dave was trying to be modest and give Richard credit for creating the character.

Okay, fine, fine, you have your own opinion...but I'm afraid I cannot room with you at a Muppet convention.

Aw, but I liked second season Janice too! Actually, she's the one of the few female fictional characters I've ever liked. I tend to like males (I guess for the attraction and all). Though, I guess it helps that she's a Richard character.

 

[minor muppetz]

Does the album booklet even have lyrics printed? Kermit Unpigged didn't, and the last few Muppet CDs (TMS 25th Anniversary, The Best of The Muppets)didn't, either.

 

[GelflingWaldo]

Does the album booklet even have lyrics printed? Kermit Unpigged didn't, and the last few Muppet CDs (TMS 25th Anniversary, The Best of The Muppets)didn't, either.

Nope, no lyrics.

 

[Frogster]

The CD wasn't all that bad... I guess the Muppets now are a combination of what they used to be and the Muppet Babies. For some reason, when I listen to the old tracks the Muppets had, with brief dialogue in between songs, I pictured the actual Muppet puppets... with Kermit Unpigged and on, I just 'see' cartoon characters. Plus, Dr Teeth/Rowlf just remind me too much of Bobo to picture who they're supposed to be. But I will say that the songs for Dr. Teeth were suited for him, and the song for Rowlf was suited for his character as well. And it was awesome to know Jerry did Floyd again! I did enjoy Rizzo and Gonzo's song... probably the two worst tracks were the Swedish Chef's and Fozzie's. And as an old Fozzie fan, I tried so hard to 'bear' it, but in the end I had to go on. And then there's Piggy's singing. Umm, yeah. They coulda had a couple more songs; with Jerry Nelson there, I'd figure Robin woulda had a song with Kermit (or even Sweetums, aka John Henson).