When you need to rant...

[Scooterforever]

Morblieu! I came here to rant and voice my opinion, not be lorded over, bullied, and insulted by "well-known members." An opinion is an opinion, don't make it personal. If you didn't want to hear people's rants you shouldn't have created this thread. If I wanted to put up with trolls, there's plenty of other places I can go on the internet.

 

[Sgt Floyd]

Uh huh...and I was just expressing my opinion and a counter argument. There was no reason to make that snide comment personally attacking me. Don't agree with me? Either present a counter argument yourself or forget about it and move on

 

[Scooterforever]

Uh huh...and I was just expressing my opinion and a counter argument. There was no reason to make that snide comment personally attacking me. Don't agree with me? Either present a counter argument yourself or forget about it and move on

My "snide" comment held no more hostility than your own smug counterargument, and was nowhere near as hostile and insulting as Drtooth's response. Again I say, you are both full-blown trolls.

 

[Drtooth]

I cannot tolerate "Moral" arguments. Any side. That's what brings the world neutered cartoon series, soda bans, and all this other garbage because no one wants to take any freaking responsibility for anything.

I hate censorship with a burning passion. What you said, opinion or not, was the song of the Nanny State censorship brigade. No one's saying let's expose kids to porn, but you're essentially saying "anything that personally offends me is terrible." Explain, please, how that isn't selfish? You gave an argument and I gave you a counter argument. You can't go around saying disagreeable things and expect immunity.

Calling me a Troll for giving you an impassioned opinion is the height of childish. And guess what... know who'd agree with me? Probably Jim Henson. I can't believe, of all people, a Muppet fan would berate performers who have outside careers for doing something kid friendly. Richard Pryor was on Sesame Street. I don't even have to elaborate. People found his humor more offensive than any of the ones you listed. People whined and screamed and cried when he got his own kid's show. If it was 40 years earlier, you'd probably be one of them.

No one in the entertainment business is a pure saint.

 

[Oscarfan]

Morblieu! I came here to rant and voice my opinion, not be lorded over, bullied, and insulted by "well-known members." An opinion is an opinion, don't make it personal. If you didn't want to hear people's rants you shouldn't have created this thread. If I wanted to put up with trolls, there's plenty of other places I can go on the internet.

HELLO. This is a DISCUSSION thread. You say something, other people will respond. Don't act defensive when you have something to say that people don't agree with when you post it somewhere where people will read it and respond to it.

 

[Drtooth]

He would be eaten alive in half the forums I've been to. I've got worse crap for less.

 

[D'Snowth]

You realize too that a lot of these comedians also make a second career for themselves writing children's books. John Lithgow and Michael Ian Black both have written children's books that were relatively well responded to.

And realize too, even some puppeteers out there, who are known for their children's work, have done more adult and "X-rated" things as well: heck, before Sid & Marty Krofft gave us H.R. PUFNSTUF, THE BUGALOOS, SIGMUND AND THE SEA MONSTERS, and other ensuing shows, they had a sold-out stage show that was essentially a marionette burlesque. That's right: marionettes of topless women. And these guys later went on to become the kings of Saturday Morning kiddy fair in the 70s. Shari Lewis even, when she wasn't doing Lamb Chop, or voicing cartoon characters, she too did a bit of stand-up and such for more mature audiences.

I'm sorry, but I'm siding with the others on this one... I mean, I'm all for censorship, I think we could use some stronger censorship, considering what's polluting television today, but you do have to draw the line somewhere, and this kind of argument is absolutely silly. It's people like this who cause more problems than they think they are... I got in trouble years ago for a Steve D'Monster video that feature curse short cuts as a running gag throughout the video: curse short cuts have been used in cartoons for DECADES, even in LOONEY TUNES, it usually gets laughs, but somehow I'm not allowed to use it with Steve because it's "too adult"?

And one other thing: while there are some comedians out there who ARE genuinely offensive and don't care about it (I'm looking at you Joan Rivers), there are others who aren't so much: Don Rickles has even said that the reason he started insulting people was a way for him to actually have more interaction with his audience, but he has stated before that his insults are never intended to actually out right offend people, and that they're done in good spirit.

 

[Drtooth]

I'm sorry, but I'm siding with the others on this one... I mean, I'm all for censorship, I think we could use some stronger censorship, considering what's polluting television today, but you do have to draw the line somewhere, and this kind of argument is absolutely silly.

I wish they'd censor stupidity on television. The dirtiest scripted shows are far less damaging than "Splash." The fact there's even a need for a show about F-listers diving pretty much shows that there's something terribly terribly wrong.

Scratch that... the fact there are competing shows where F-listers diving absolutely shows that there's something terrifyingly, horrifically, unabashedly, freaking super duper wrong.

I'm no fan of censorship, but I am more of one to say "hey..uh... dial that back a little." I really don't think so many crime drama needed to cross the line into Gorn territory. That's why Mandy Patankin left Criminal Minds.

 

[Sgt Floyd]

I'm no fan of censorship, but I am more of one to say "hey..uh... dial that back a little."

I'll agree with that. Sometimes you do get to the point where enough is enough. But of course, you do always have the option of not watching it, but sometimes you do have to think maybe they could have been a bit less explicit.

 

[Drtooth]

Oh, definitely. Off is always the best alternative to being offended by something.

Though I will say it gets a bit of a bother when you're watching something unrelated and eating something and the commercial comes on for the next episode of something where the murderer skins his victims and uses them as puppets. You can't reach for the remote fast enough.