-
Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help. -
Jim Henson Idea Man
Remember the life. Honor the legacy. Inspire your soul. The new Jim Henson documentary "Idea Man" is now streaming exclusively on Disney+. -
Back to the Rock Season 2
Fraggle Rock Back to the Rock Season 2 has premiered on AppleTV+. Watch the anticipated new season and let us know your thoughts. -
Bear arrives on Disney+
The beloved series has been off the air for the past 15 years. Now all four seasons are finally available for a whole new generation. -
Sam and Friends Book
Read our review of the long-awaited book, "Sam and Friends - The Story of Jim Henson's First Television Show" by Muppet Historian Craig Shemin.
Weekly Box Office and Film Discussion Thread
- Thread starter jvcarroll
- Start date
I'm sure everyone regrets that movie by now.
Anyway, lemme just add this. It's danged if they do, danged if they don't with that sort of thing. Tigerlily and Tonto aren't especially as progressive today as they were when they were written (and barely at that). No matter how the characters would have been portrayed, they'd've been considered offensive on some level. Johnny Depp's excuse is at least the director's pet. Pan just had a strange vision. I'll leave it at that. Considering the completely fine for its time, totally inapropro now song about "What made the Red Man Red" in the Disney edition, it's kind of a "at least you didn't crap your pants" level of low bar.
Still, we can't go around complaining about "Oscar's So White" when ethnic characters are played by whites (mainly because of the big names) and then have a bunch of not racist racist nerds flipping out over the fact there was a Black Stormtrooper (which as anyone who has seen the movie by now knows that they just kidnap kids and forcibly raise them to be Stormtroopers, also there was a Black Stormtrooper in Star Wars Rebels), or the mere suggestion of a Miles Morales (or shudder "worse": an ethnic Peter Parker) Spider-Man.
Anyway, lemme just add this. It's danged if they do, danged if they don't with that sort of thing. Tigerlily and Tonto aren't especially as progressive today as they were when they were written (and barely at that). No matter how the characters would have been portrayed, they'd've been considered offensive on some level. Johnny Depp's excuse is at least the director's pet. Pan just had a strange vision. I'll leave it at that. Considering the completely fine for its time, totally inapropro now song about "What made the Red Man Red" in the Disney edition, it's kind of a "at least you didn't crap your pants" level of low bar.
Still, we can't go around complaining about "Oscar's So White" when ethnic characters are played by whites (mainly because of the big names) and then have a bunch of not racist racist nerds flipping out over the fact there was a Black Stormtrooper (which as anyone who has seen the movie by now knows that they just kidnap kids and forcibly raise them to be Stormtroopers, also there was a Black Stormtrooper in Star Wars Rebels), or the mere suggestion of a Miles Morales (or shudder "worse": an ethnic Peter Parker) Spider-Man.
mr3urious
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2009
- Messages
- 3,905
- Reaction score
- 1,407
Deadpool is still a box office darling, while newcomers such as Gods of Egypt aren't doing so hot.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=&yr=2016&wknd=09&p=.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?view=&yr=2016&wknd=09&p=.htm
Gods of Egypt's failing makes me happy. With all the controversy about the Oscars (and as Chris Rock put it, this was the time to be mad about that?!), we keep forgetting about these reverse racelifts in movies. Of course a movie that takes place in the Middle East stars white guys. Glad to see that movie goers are taking to the right thing to boycott.
Or it could just be a big wet fart of a film anyway. Either way.
Or it could just be a big wet fart of a film anyway. Either way.
Addendum:
The director of Gods of Egypt is taking the failure of the film and critical panning of his film completely in stride [sarcasm].
Really doesn't stand behind the fact that his movie looked like an obvious Razzie contender.
The director of Gods of Egypt is taking the failure of the film and critical panning of his film completely in stride [sarcasm].
Really doesn't stand behind the fact that his movie looked like an obvious Razzie contender.
mr3urious
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Apr 5, 2009
- Messages
- 3,905
- Reaction score
- 1,407
Zootopia takes #1 this year, and is Disney's biggest animated opening ever at over $73 million, which is far more than its newcomers London Has Fallen and Whiskey Tango Foxtrot (the latter of which obviously exists for Oscar bait come next year's Academy Awards).
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2016&wknd=10&p=.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2016&wknd=10&p=.htm
Whisky Tango Foxtrot does indeed look good, and frankly better than most Oscar Bait. I just have no desire to see it and would wait for home video/streaming to catch it. Which seems to be very much the case here. These smaller, lower budget film do seem to be getting edged out quickly. Movies aren't as cheap as they used to be, and why pay for something that doesn't look like it loses much when it goes to home computers and televisions.
London has Fallen looks dumber than its predecessor. I really wish the one with Jamie Fox got the sequel. It looked like a lot more fun.
Zootopia, I'll discuss on the Zootopia thread, but...seriously... see it. see it now! I'm sure they're going to get a fandom that ruins the film, I mean, most everything does and it's obvious, but until then, enjoy the film.
Also, it appears Deadpool cracked the top 50 highest domestically grossing films. Yet another fart in the face of Fox that threw money at Fan4stic Four and didn't even want to produce Deadpool. I hope that get razzed in Deadpool and Cable.
London has Fallen looks dumber than its predecessor. I really wish the one with Jamie Fox got the sequel. It looked like a lot more fun.
Zootopia, I'll discuss on the Zootopia thread, but...seriously... see it. see it now! I'm sure they're going to get a fandom that ruins the film, I mean, most everything does and it's obvious, but until then, enjoy the film.
Also, it appears Deadpool cracked the top 50 highest domestically grossing films. Yet another fart in the face of Fox that threw money at Fan4stic Four and didn't even want to produce Deadpool. I hope that get razzed in Deadpool and Cable.
Mynameisdean
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jun 30, 2014
- Messages
- 323
- Reaction score
- 75
Zootopia looks like it will be #1 again, with 10 Cloverfield Lane a close second. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2016-03-11&p=.htm
While I'm of the kind that feels that Frozen both gets too much hate and too much love, I'm really glad that Disney has a film that's doing far better than Frozen. It was really starting to become a highly overrated film, especially from the licensing angle. I'd much rather see merchandise of Flash the Sloth all over the place than Olaf and that elk/moose thing who's name I can't remember.
And after The Good Dinosaur was killed by poor timing (too soon after The Peanuts, too soon before Star Wars), I think Disney animation needed a huge win.
And after The Good Dinosaur was killed by poor timing (too soon after The Peanuts, too soon before Star Wars), I think Disney animation needed a huge win.