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The Nostalgia Critic Thread Lives Again!

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Wait. Huh? I didn't think Doug was even allowed to leave yet! Welp, if all of this is true I really have to wonder what CA is going to do next. Are they going to give into pressure and try to fix their issues, or are they just going to shut down?
And if they don't shut down, again, assuming these rumors about Doug are true, CA still owns the rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Would they just replace him?
 

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Wait. Huh? I didn't think Doug was even allowed to leave yet! Welp, if all of this is true I really have to wonder what CA is going to do next. Are they going to give into pressure and try to fix their issues, or are they just going to shut down?
And if they don't shut down, again, assuming these rumors about Doug are true, CA still owns the rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Would they just replace him?
With all the bad press they've been getting, I don't think there's any recovery from this. Doug might be able to start a new website and get people back, or at least new people. But I dont think anyone would want to work for CA and i dont really see any other option besides them shutting down.
 

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So does Michaud/CA own just Nostalgia Critic, or do they own all of the properties that Doug had previously created? I'm just wondering if Doug could possibly resurrect TGWTG, or if that would not be possible for him legally.

Either way, because he was such a driving force behind CA and many of the grievances were against him (and Rob) and his unprofessional and ego-centric behavior, I still would be very curious to see him release a statement/response of his own.
 

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yeah but people still like doug enough that if he gave an apology, people would trust him again. the majority of the fire now seems to be directed at michaud
 

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I have to say, I don’t know much about that Justin person, never watched the videos, but I’m not comfortable with the way accusations have spread like wild fire. We have no idea who the accusers are. Even if they are telling the truth we only have their side of the story. Plus, it sounds like these women were of age. Saying you were “mentally 16” will not hold up in court unless you have papers demonstrating a mental disability. And one of them said she didn’t realize it was bad until she read a pamphlet? Anyone can read a pamphlet or a list of symptoms and decide it fits them. This guy may very well be guilty. But this Internet brand of justice is dangerous. These fans don’t know anything about the law or even basic human psychology, and yet they possess the power to ruin lives. This is why I have trouble embracing this metoo “movement.” There doesn’t seem to be any responsibility going on, just bandwagon outrage. And from adults who ought to know better.
 
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actually there have been several people who have come forth with stories who weren't the accusers. i mean yeah they're still secondhand accounts and who knows if the people who told them the stories were telling the truth.

You can't ruin the life of someone whos dead. that's literally the only reason all of this is coming out right now. And the thing is...the accusers never directly stated it was him either. That was CA's fault for not properly censoring out names while trying to disprove themselves of any wrongdoings.
 

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You can't ruin the life of someone whos dead. that's literally the only reason all of this is coming out right now.
Kind of like how after Patrick Swayze died, the ever-so-classy Kirstie Alley came forward and was like, "Oh, by the way, Patrick and I had a torid love affair that his wife never knew about. Just thought the world should know."
 

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i mean yeah they're still secondhand accounts
Yes, they are still second hand accounts, therefore should be treated as such. I really don't care if some random ex-HR person I don't know "says it's true."* And this is CA's fault, and the producers' fault, and the fans' fault for mistaking Internet drama for an actual investigation. The producers knew (or should have known) that putting the story out there at all would likely eventually lead to more information getting out and fans running with it just to get their Views and Likes and Subscribers up. And it doesn't matter if that particular person is dead. This same mentality will end up destroying someone else's life. Not like this kind of accusing is only happening to dead people.

*And btw, who the heck stays in a job after being led to a "safe house" by a bunch of overgrown fanboys with bats and a sword?? Who don't bother calling the police??? Were there seriously no other HR jobs anywhere? Heck, was McDonald's not hiring that day? They at least would call the police! All these people were crazy (though at least Phelous is open about it, hehe).
 
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ok but again, the accusers never once actually stated who it was that was doing anything. nowhere in the original document did they single him out. the people who accused him of the actions NEVER wanted this to happen. That's why they stayed anonymous and never mentioned him by name. They knew how much he meant to people and didn't want to ruin that.

I'm not saying that people aren't in the wrong here. I'm just saying that this situation is what the accusers were trying to avoid in the first place. It's CA's fault it got so out of hand.
 

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ok but again, the accusers never once actually stated who it was that was doing anything. nowhere in the original document did they single him out. the people who accused him of the actions NEVER wanted this to happen. That's why they stayed anonymous and never mentioned him by name. They knew how much he meant to people and didn't want to ruin that.

I'm not saying that people aren't in the wrong here. I'm just saying that this situation is what the accusers were trying to avoid in the first place. It's CA's fault it got so out of hand.
Which is why the Internet is the very last place to take serious issues like this. Because there is no way to control what will happen. I'm personally just tired of so many young people attempting to live on the Internet in place of real life, and then being stunned when it all goes wrong. That wasn't a "document." It was a gaggle of Internet people spreading gossip and chaos, true or untrue. Counting on outrage culture to blindly take their side. Heck, I even heard one YouTuber refer to it as a dossier, likely because he just learned a new word when his Mom left the news on, lol. Yeah, the CA people were obviously quite incompetent at running a business. No kidding, they're just random Internet people with a YouTube channel. If those producers wanted to be treated better, then they should have looked for professionals who might actually pay them (or at least feed them). And the fans should have understood that none of these "Internet celebrities" are vetted. You are taking a HUGE risk idolizing them, and certainly meeting them. It's that juvenile sense of rebellion, "Oh Hollywood's corrupt and my family doesn't get me, so I'll find my real family online!" It's nonsense and it's dangerous.
 
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