Sorry to ruffle anyone's feathers guys and gals.
I come from a toy list where folks bend over backwards for each other, offering to take on their brothers and sisters for items that they couldn't find in their areas. It has a real sense of family. People often mail packages just on good faith, before they've even been repaid for the items. A great community to be a part of. Just like this forum, it has people from all walks of life, but with one thing in common, a shared passion that they can all appreciate, so much so that they know how much the little hard to find things mean to one another. People doing what they can to help each other further our collections. I guess I've been taking it somewhat for granted.
Probably part of the reason it's so different is because it was created before and most of the members joined before the invention of ebay. So we had to rely on one another early on, as we had no real alternative. And because there wasn't this global market yet, no one could forsee an easy way to make a profit for a common local item.
And yes, it has all the same aspects here as well, with the news and discussion, keeping each other informed, and the building of friendships, people meeting each other when they visit another members towns, etc.... Heck, there's even an annual get together at someone's house where all members are invited to attend.
Basically I was just shocked when I didn't see anyone offering to help ahead of time, because that's what I'm used to seeing. I guess I've been spoiled.
I'm not trying to shame anyone into doing anything. Like I said, it's a matter of choice how one handles themselves on this or any other forum. If you're helping people because you feel guilty, you're doing it for the wrong reason. It's supposed to make you feel good, knowing that you've helped someone else. And it's supposed to bring the group even closer together, humanize it even more. In that respect the Palisades club is a bad thing, because we don't need one another (and think what the ebay prices would be then!). I really didn't think this was such a novel idea here, but I guess it is.
Admittedly, I went about introducing it the wrong way with my initial sarcasm. Like I said, I was just amazed that no one was offering, saying something to the effect of "hey, I know that 33 states and all the international members have no access to Jack in the Box. I feel your pain. Send me your emails and I'll pick ten people to help at cost."
If anyone wants to make money on ebay, that's fine. But it's insulting to pretend that when you put items on auction it's some philanthropic gesture for the members of the community.
I have no sense of entitlement just because I'm on the forum, like "you have to help ME, I'm a member!" I've only ever helped one other member on this forum, by getting them a vacation Fozzie for cost, so I'm not well known in the trading circles here, so I personally wasn't expecting anything from anyone for myself. I just couldn't believe that you weren't doing if for each other. That I could see anyway. Like you said some of this may be going on behind the scenes with people who are afraid of being inundated with requests (personally I don't think the amount of demand is there for that fear, but anyway.)
Never anywhere did I ask for help as I knew I'd be able to get help elsewhere. I just wanted to try to bring that same sense of community I'm used to here and show that we can do it too. But I started off on the wrong foot and went about it the wrong way I suppose.
I do really believe that people will remember when you've helped them out in the past, and they'll be looking out for you in the future when something comes along that you can't find. Some call it toy karma. I know, I'm crazy. I guess I'm a dinosaur and the world I live in doesn't exist anymore outside my other group. Why should I be surprised? People don't even talk to their neighbors anymore, why should anyone care about faceless people on the internet? And I guess that's why ebay generates billions in sales every year now....
I'm done with the topic and this thread now. Don't worry, you guys have set me straight how things are in the "real world". I've seen the light and the folly of my notions. I'll join the ranks of the wickeder and wiser and when I see all those Koozebane Kermit's at Target, I'll remember that it's every man and woman for themselves, and direct you all to ebay.....