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Okay, so I couldn't think of anything else to talk about, so I thought we have this to discuss/think about:
Sesame Street: A show us Muppet/Henson fans know and love, alongside TMS, Fraggle Rock and so on...but we've heard many times that it was a production of CTW, and that Jim and his team was hired by them to create/perform the characters, plus they also, as it has been known, manage the copyrights to those characters...yet almost every die-hard Muppet fan believes it to have been a JHC(and CTW) show.
Let's recap...
"The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland" movie website(now defunct):
said the same thing about it not being one in the behind the scenes page.
From the "Television" section at the Henson Company's official website:
From the frogs, bears and pigs of The Muppet Show, to the multi-colored, furry Fraggles of Fraggle Rock; from the warm, nurturing comedy of Sesame Street, to the sophisticated, subtle drama of Jim Henson's The Storyteller, to the hilarious wizardry of Dinosaurs, the work of The Jim Henson Company demonstrates an astonishing range of styles and audience appeal
...and then there's the last blurb on that same page that reads: "In addition to its own television projects, the company continues to create and perform the Muppet characters featured on Sesame Street, which is produced by the Children's Television Workshop. The multiple Emmy Award-winning program is in its 29th season on PBS".
But despite what the last paragraph said(which was also mentioned in the company profile page and in their "Corporate Profile" from the 90s, which claimed that there were 67 episodes of The Muppet Show, which is totally inaccurate), Sesame Street has had its own page in the "Television" series category(every show that they made).
Let's take, for example: A company that manufactures...computer products. If they have made(or had) a product, then they'd put it up on their own website. If they've put up something that doesn't belong to them, then that would be stealing. Also notice in the Creature Shop category that they've divided the projects they were involved in the puppetmaking for in these categories: TV, Film and Others. The TV and Film were for their work in inhouse projects(or: "Henson Television Series/Specials" and "Henson Films" as they labeled them). The "Others" mean the projects not from their company, but they helped in them. If, like I said earlier, they were to put any of those films(ie: Babe, Flintstones, Ninja Turtles) in their "Films" category(on their site)...then what they would be doing would be known as plagirism, which can lead to serious consequences.
Hence which is why they never put up pages for those projects in their list of TV and Film stuff they've made. Which brings us to this point: If you were to look in the "Television" page...say for example, you enter the "Specials" section, you will notice a complete and accurate list of every one they've made(except that some of the air/premiere dates may be wrong). And, if you were to look at the "Series" section, you'll see, as noted earlier Sesame Street there, right along TMS, Storyteller, Dinosaurs, and so on.
Remember when Jim was inducted into the TV Hall of Fame? and there was a ceremony for that? Notice that on the brickwall Kermit, Piggy and several other Muppets stand behind are painted with "logos"(like graffiti). You can clearly see The Muppet Show, Fraggle Rock, SESAME STREET and Muppet Babies next to the Henson Associates logo.
And from a 1982 interview with Jim, in which he discusses Fraggle Rock:
"When The Muppet Show ended, we all sat around and said, what kind of television show would we like to do. We felt the need these days are for some quality children's programming. There's not much done of a quality nature for kids. We were also looking - because of the way we've been going with The Muppet Show and Sesame Street - to go more internationally. We thought it would be fun to try to design a show that would work well internationally and so that' s what we're intending to do with Fraggle Rock, and we are indeed now selling it around the world"
Basically, the "we" he refers to is his company. He also uses "we did" for some of the other things theyve made(TV specials, commercials, and so on).
Your turn.
Sesame Street: A show us Muppet/Henson fans know and love, alongside TMS, Fraggle Rock and so on...but we've heard many times that it was a production of CTW, and that Jim and his team was hired by them to create/perform the characters, plus they also, as it has been known, manage the copyrights to those characters...yet almost every die-hard Muppet fan believes it to have been a JHC(and CTW) show.
Let's recap...
"The Adventures of Elmo in Grouchland" movie website(now defunct):
said the same thing about it not being one in the behind the scenes page.
From the "Television" section at the Henson Company's official website:
From the frogs, bears and pigs of The Muppet Show, to the multi-colored, furry Fraggles of Fraggle Rock; from the warm, nurturing comedy of Sesame Street, to the sophisticated, subtle drama of Jim Henson's The Storyteller, to the hilarious wizardry of Dinosaurs, the work of The Jim Henson Company demonstrates an astonishing range of styles and audience appeal
...and then there's the last blurb on that same page that reads: "In addition to its own television projects, the company continues to create and perform the Muppet characters featured on Sesame Street, which is produced by the Children's Television Workshop. The multiple Emmy Award-winning program is in its 29th season on PBS".
But despite what the last paragraph said(which was also mentioned in the company profile page and in their "Corporate Profile" from the 90s, which claimed that there were 67 episodes of The Muppet Show, which is totally inaccurate), Sesame Street has had its own page in the "Television" series category(every show that they made).
Let's take, for example: A company that manufactures...computer products. If they have made(or had) a product, then they'd put it up on their own website. If they've put up something that doesn't belong to them, then that would be stealing. Also notice in the Creature Shop category that they've divided the projects they were involved in the puppetmaking for in these categories: TV, Film and Others. The TV and Film were for their work in inhouse projects(or: "Henson Television Series/Specials" and "Henson Films" as they labeled them). The "Others" mean the projects not from their company, but they helped in them. If, like I said earlier, they were to put any of those films(ie: Babe, Flintstones, Ninja Turtles) in their "Films" category(on their site)...then what they would be doing would be known as plagirism, which can lead to serious consequences.
Hence which is why they never put up pages for those projects in their list of TV and Film stuff they've made. Which brings us to this point: If you were to look in the "Television" page...say for example, you enter the "Specials" section, you will notice a complete and accurate list of every one they've made(except that some of the air/premiere dates may be wrong). And, if you were to look at the "Series" section, you'll see, as noted earlier Sesame Street there, right along TMS, Storyteller, Dinosaurs, and so on.
Remember when Jim was inducted into the TV Hall of Fame? and there was a ceremony for that? Notice that on the brickwall Kermit, Piggy and several other Muppets stand behind are painted with "logos"(like graffiti). You can clearly see The Muppet Show, Fraggle Rock, SESAME STREET and Muppet Babies next to the Henson Associates logo.
And from a 1982 interview with Jim, in which he discusses Fraggle Rock:
"When The Muppet Show ended, we all sat around and said, what kind of television show would we like to do. We felt the need these days are for some quality children's programming. There's not much done of a quality nature for kids. We were also looking - because of the way we've been going with The Muppet Show and Sesame Street - to go more internationally. We thought it would be fun to try to design a show that would work well internationally and so that' s what we're intending to do with Fraggle Rock, and we are indeed now selling it around the world"
Basically, the "we" he refers to is his company. He also uses "we did" for some of the other things theyve made(TV specials, commercials, and so on).
Your turn.
Jim was one of the collaborators as was Joe Raposo for music and Jon Stone for writing...but in my opinion Sesame Street as a television show and product does not belong to the Henson name, it belongs to CTW/SW and mainly Joan Ganz Cooney. SHE created the show and asked for Jim to create the Muppet characters.
