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The first thing I remeber was "Somebody Come and Play" with the two snow-leapords.
Your right Daffyfan. It is Frank Oz. Not Jim.Daffyfan2003 said:Henson voiced brown Grover? I thought he was always voiced by Frank Oz and it was just his appearance that changed.
mikebennidict said:now let's not get so snotty. they're only going by what they recall. i do remember some of that stuff. the SS special i don't remember or even saw. i heard about some of the TEC cast visiting SS and while i only recall the last 2 seasons of that show i did see some of the SS muppets visiting TEC. maybe you could share what you remember about that including the 1976 SS special. never heard about it till now. also did you read my posting about everyone going to New Mexico?
Listen, I know Frank performed Brown Grover quite a bit, but I'll swear on a stack of bibles Jim performed him this time. During the first season, when most of the monsters didn't have distinct personalities yet, there was quite a lot of mix-and-matching going on.Erine81981 said:Your right Daffyfan. It is Frank Oz. Not Jim.
fuzzygobo said:Listen, I know Frank performed Brown Grover quite a bit, but I'll swear on a stack of bibles Jim performed him this time. During the first season, when most of the monsters didn't have distinct personalities yet, there was quite a lot of mix-and-matching going on.
Case-in-point, there was a skit with six monsters lined up along the brick wall
whispering "C" to each other. Cookie Monster was there, but instead of Frank, Carroll Spinney voiced him.
There's evidence in either the Sesame Street Unpaved book, or Jim Henson: The Works that when Frank and Jim performed Bert and Ernie for the first time, Jim was Bert and Frank was Ernie, until they realized they were more comfortable switching roles.
In the song Up and Down, Jim performed the prototype Herry Monster puppet, which was later inherited by Jerry Nelson.
So it's not beyond the realm of possiblity Jim could've been Brown Grover, if only for one skit, before passing it on to someone else.
I think I missed my calling. I should've been a lawyer. Or maybe not.
Yes, the song "Up and Down" was a musical skit with Cookie and Herry on the show, as well as a song on Sesame Street 1. Interesting to hear the early Herry called a "prototype". Herry did look very different early on. His nose was blue and furry like the rest of him and when he faced the camera, it looked like he had no nose at all. The Up and Down skit was actually redone years later in the 90's. This time Cookie and Herry (modern versions of course) were in the park instead of behind a brick wall and the lyrics were slightly different.jeffkjoe said:Brown Grover was named "Fuzzy Face" - a nickname or moniker that Kermit gave him in the 1969 sketch about over, in, next to, and beneath. You can refer to, I believe, the 4th 1969 show from UNPAVED. And that time, he was Frank Oz.
BTW, how did you know that Jim Henson's role in UP AND DOWN was a prototype Herry? Was there ever a sketch with that song on the show?
since all of the 1969 SSU epsidoes and Jim doing Ernie and Frank doing Bert, including the premiere episode, i wonder if it was in the test shows where they performed the different muppets?fuzzygobo said:Listen, I know Frank performed Brown Grover quite a bit, but I'll swear on a stack of bibles Jim performed him this time. During the first season, when most of the monsters didn't have distinct personalities yet, there was quite a lot of mix-and-matching going on.
Case-in-point, there was a skit with six monsters lined up along the brick wall
whispering "C" to each other. Cookie Monster was there, but instead of Frank, Carroll Spinney voiced him.
There's evidence in either the Sesame Street Unpaved book, or Jim Henson: The Works that when Frank and Jim performed Bert and Ernie for the first time, Jim was Bert and Frank was Ernie, until they realized they were more comfortable switching roles.
In the song Up and Down, Jim performed the prototype Herry Monster puppet, which was later inherited by Jerry Nelson.
So it's not beyond the realm of possiblity Jim could've been Brown Grover, if only for one skit, before passing it on to someone else.
I think I missed my calling. I should've been a lawyer. Or maybe not.