Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

[frogboy4]

I'm surprised that more NBC stars aren't in the special. I think people are carrying on too much. I'm sure these actors will only be on for a second. Heck, I never much liked John Denver, but it was quite different when he was with the Muppets. Months after the announcement - why are we still stuck on Snoop Dog? He's off the drugs anyway and he's cleaned up his act quite a bit. I don't think we'd be as concerned if it were Liza Minelli - and that girl's abused so many substances in her life to stock a pharmaceutical company! I just feel it's popular to pick on certain types of people.

 

[tomahawk]

jamie, i also thought we were done with all of this. i was even hesitating answering back but i couldn't stand it any more.

 

[beaker]

You know, maybe Emenem would have been a better choice...you know, because he seems to be thought of as 'safe' amongst the suburban soccer mom picket fence community.

The fact is JHC doesnt have much money to pull in say Tom Cruise or George Clooney, or any other A-list star. So what ya can get, you'll get.

Also, isn't the PC days of the 90's officially over? I know
ever since the unspeakable tragedy of 2/21( feb 21st 2000 when EM.TV officially kidnapped JHC and the Muppets) the days of sensitivity and irony have gone out the window...but there really isnt any celebrity I would object to(*note I say celebtrity, not infamous media created celebrity) being on the Muppet Show whether it be Marilyn Manson, Charlton Heston or PResident George W Bush.(as a note, all three of these folks star in a new documentray by Michale Moore called "Bowling For Columbine" out later this year)

 

[FellowWLover]

Originally posted by beaker
You know, maybe Emenem would have been a better choice...you know, because he seems to be thought of as 'safe' amongst the suburban soccer mom picket fence community.

Dunno about that... Eminem is not too popular in that circle either.

 

[BlueFrackle]

Guys,

Actually, i think that the Point is, The Muppets are starring in it, Its NBC's so they choose.

If The Muppets say they dont want him in it, Then thats their problem.

But anyway, What Jamie said is true, This is not Sesame Street.

And it will attract older viewers, Because they know Snoop Dogg aint gonna mingle with Big Bird.

See ya

 

[danielromens]

To Patty,

Though I do respect your opinion here's some food for thought...

a. just because they have chosen to use Snoop as a guest in no way means they are advertising crime and vulgarity to youngsters. He's there to entise a different fan base to watch the film, a different demographic for possible fans. This could be anywhere from inner city kids to african americans, to anyone who enjoys him as a performer.

b. Snoop is cleaning himself up. Supposedly he has given up drugs and (though long ago) he cut ties between himself and the gang world. He's doing it because he has a wife and kids. People change.

c. Here are some other beloved degenerates and "bad influences" who've worked with the muppets. These are anyone involved with drugs, crass behavor, or other wise....

1. Robin Williams-a known coke abuser, and crass comic (see live at the met)
2. Ozzy Osborne
3. Alice Cooper
4. Mel Brooks - comedy below the belt
5. Debby Harry
6. Jimmy Buffet- songs about drunkeness
7. Elton John
8. John Cleese-Monty Python was not kids stuff
9. Steve Martin
10. The cast of Saturday Night Live
11. Dudley Moore
12. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
13. Hulk Hogan
14. Richard Prior
15. Jon Stewart-an admitted dope smoker
16. Whoopie Goldberg
17. Tim Curry- a transvestite in Rocky Horror...for shame
18. Liza Minneli
19. Coolio
20. Tony Bennet- also had a coke problem and possible mafia ties
21. Robert Downey Junior

the list goes on and on...not only that, but Jim and the puppeteers weren't exactly angles all of the time either.

Again, I do think you raise a point, but it seems a bit under thought and underinformed. Maybe you should actually try writing the company instead of posting to a fan board.

Also I don't see how a guest star is glorifying violence. Unless he's dealing drugs to animal or pulling drivebyes in Fozzie's studebaker I really don't see the harm in someone doing something for their kids.

daniel romens

 

[FellowWLover]

Just for the record, his drug use and gang affiliation may be in the past, but his porno stuff is recent... very recent.

 

[Patty E.]

Snoop Doggy Dog- Degenerate Lifestyle

The reality is Snoop has chosen a deviant lifestyle and he continues to disrespect women.

FellowWLover is right, he maintains his "gang affiliation."

Apparently, Mr. Rivkin is interested in making "vulgar" fashionable.

Respecfully,
Patty E.
Email: pegerer@aol.com

 

[kansasteen14]

I dont want Snoop Dogg in it but Peggy do you reliase the fact that the muppets have been made for all ages my 7 year old brother loves them I a 14 year old loves them my 32 year old mother loves them.

 

[tomahawk]

again patty i will ask the question. is it degrading or disrespecting someone by paying them to do a job(i.e. a mtv or porno video) when the payee is saying yes to all of it and smiling all the way to the bank?