Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate)

[tomahawk]

Originally posted by Patty E.
C.Ghost-

What I make my business should be of no concern to you.

Patty E.

you know, i was really leaning towards other peoples thoughts of letting this thread die. letting it sink like the titanic, dissapear, disintegrate. moving on felt like a good idea. but than at work the other night i got to thinking, its not just patty who is against people wanting to see things that they as human beings have every right to see, its other groups that are now taking the responsibility of changing the henson company mind and forcing censorship on them by threatening boycotts. so i thought about a few things that may not have been brought up before that may help patty and all of the other think for everyone else groups out there.

1.REMOTE CONTROLS-o.k. find your t.v. remote. there should be a red button(it may be other colors , but it is usually the brightest). point the remote at your t.v. push the button. notice that the t.v. goes on or off. to me this usually comes in handy when survivor is on. now look around on the rest of the remote, you'll see to arrows going up or down. these change the channel when something you dislike is on. this also comes in handy for me when survivor is on.

2.SNOOP/MUPPETS/PORN
there were some comments made concerning kids and if they were to watch the chistmas special, see snoop and connect it with his porn videos etc. now i don't know how everyone raises thier kids but the only way my daughter would connect snoop with the muppet special and his porno is if SHE SEES THE PORNO. otherwise its some guy sitting on some steps with the electric mayhem. remember the frog is a great deal more interesting to look at, and who notices what the bearded man is doing. if your kids are able to connect snoop to his pornos than i believe there is another problem at hand.

3.FREEDOM?
if any of these people, groups,churches, militias, cults, satanists, atheists, patriots, pot smokers, drinkers, clean living people, gangsters, porn actors and actresses etc. etc. are behind the president on his "crusade" against the iraqi threat to our freedom, are way of life and our safety........................well i think that speaks for itself.

 

[ZootandDingo]

Originally posted by Patty E.
C.Ghost-
What I make my business should be of no concern to you.

Then why bother posting it all to strangers on a public forum? There was nothing that you said that you couldn't have just written in a private letter to Mr. Rivkin. In fact, if I'm not mistaken you joined the forum just for posting your little rant.

If you want to present an opinion, then you should be willing to hear the reaction to that. If the reaction is "Get a life," then oh well.

Let's face it, you've made it everyone's concern on here. If you didn't want to get a group reaction, then there was nothing stopping you from just writing to Mr. Rivkin (if you did at all, since I personally was never under the impression that he checks this forum).

I'm sorry. You can go ahead and have whatever thoughts and opinions you want. But you can't come onto a message board and post it, then not answer people who ask you to elaborate on certain points, and then get huffy if someone blows you off as irrational. That's almost hypocritical of you.

You won. Get over it. If you need to gloat, write to Rivkin.

 

[grail]

Originally posted by ZootandDingo
Then why bother posting it all to strangers on a public forum? There was nothing that you said that you couldn't have just written in a private letter to Mr. Rivkin. In fact, if I'm not mistaken you joined the forum just for posting your little rant.

If you want to present an opinion, then you should be willing to hear the reaction to that. If the reaction is "Get a life," then oh well.

Let's face it, you've made it everyone's concern on here. If you didn't want to get a group reaction, then there was nothing stopping you from just writing to Mr. Rivkin (if you did at all, since I personally was never under the impression that he checks this forum).

I'm sorry. You can go ahead and have whatever thoughts and opinions you want. But you can't come onto a message board and post it, then not answer people who ask you to elaborate on certain points, and then get huffy if someone blows you off as irrational. That's almost hypocritical of you.

You won. Get over it. If you need to gloat, write to Rivkin.

man..._I_ wanted to say that...but i'm not supposed to be surfing the internet at work, so i couldn't respond earlier. oh well...

 

[Zack the Dog]

1. Robin Williams-a known coke abuser, and crass comic (see live at the met)
2. Ozzy Osborne
3. Alice Cooper
4. Mel Brooks - comedy below the belt
5. Debby Harry
6. Jimmy Buffet- songs about drunkeness
7. Elton John
8. John Cleese-Monty Python was not kids stuff
9. Steve Martin
10. The cast of Saturday Night Live
11. Dudley Moore
12. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
13. Hulk Hogan
14. Richard Prior
15. Jon Stewart-an admitted dope smoker
16. Whoopie Goldberg
17. Tim Curry- a transvestite in Rocky Horror...for shame
18. Liza Minneli
19. Coolio
20. Tony Bennet- also had a coke problem and possible mafia ties
21. Robert Downey Junior

dose anyone see Dom Deluse on this list?!?! NO! Dom Deluse should be in this christmas specail, he's a great chef, dose many wonderful cartoon character voices, and he's halarius! i love Dom! he's great!

what people aren't understanding is that snoop openly dose this suff, like you can look at his face and that's what you will think of, when you look at Whoopie Goldberg that's not what you think of
let's face it guys, muppets aren't just for adults, there are kids too and no matter what anyone thinks, it's always going to be this way, no i'm not a fan at all of snoop,but i would have like to seem him do something like this, i feel bad for him, but what was done had to be done

 

[Cantus' Ghost]

Originally posted by Patty E.
C.Ghost-

What I make my business should be of no concern to you.

Patty E.

This comment wasn't even directed towards you. It was towards Bill O'Reilly. He's the one who chose to provide his Godawful, aimless commetary on this brief cameo thing before a nat'l audience, thus, ignoring the REAL issues. All you did was post a couple of messages on an Internet msg bd. I'm saying that he is grossly irresponsible for making this an issue when there is so much suffering- caused mostly by greed- in the world. You have to admit that Snoop Dogg's cameo in this movie is ultimately unimportant. Just admit it!

This was not an attack on you. I only quoted you to elaborate my own opinion.

But enough about that. Has anyone tried those new 'milk n' cereal' bars? Eccch! Nasty! I dunno...

 

[frogboy4]

I agree with you about Bill O'Riley. I actually enjoy Fox News as long as it's mixed with some MSNBC and CNN. But Bill is less relevant than Howard Stern.

 

[Cantus' Ghost]

oreilly@foxnews.com

That's his email address. Let's give that pigheaded elitist a little taste of Hel- uh, I mean, Hades...

 

[Patty E.]

How Henson Productions would overlook the surplus of other black performers, artists and achievers in favor of Dogg is beyond comprehension. The broadcast would have reinforced popular culture's sterotype of black males as foul mouthed, gangbanging, dope dealing homeboys.

Patty E.

 

[frogboy4]

Apparently Snoop has been making the rounds in other forms of Children's entertainment. This information has been published in several articles and spoken about on television. Snoop was likely shopped around rather than pursued by Henson. I think this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. More attention has been brought to Snoop by naysayers than any appearance would have.

 

[beaker]

>>>otherwise its some guy sitting on some steps with the electric mayhem.<<<

And I think that is the crux of the whole matter. To think that kids watching this will see Snoop and think 'oh man, I need to join a gang and sing songs about slingin' dope and ho's' is a joke.
But a very small vocal minoity will have you believe otherwise.

However, reading through some of Patty E's posts she does bring up some very good points.

>>>How Henson Productions would overlook the surplus of other black performers, artists and achievers in favor of Dogg is beyond comprehension. The broadcast would have reinforced popular culture's sterotype of black males as foul mouthed, gangbanging, dope dealing homeboys.<<<

I agree fully. These media moguls might as well be wearing colonel sanders colonial slave owner garb, ribbon ties and a whip...as they have literally formed in unfortunate quantities this tragic 'new millennium' minstrel show with the protrayal of black youth in MTV, BET, etc. Spike Lee's "Bamboozled" makes this argument.

Rap used to be innocent. Public Enemy, Run DMC, Fat Boys, LL Cool J., etc... then came along this west coast gang banging(ie: true affiliations with gangs and drugs) thing in the early 90's that really put a negative stain on America's psyche when it came to stereotypes.

It should be an embarassment for Puff Daddy, MTV higher ups, etc to peddle this blacksploitation wrapped as kid friendly recruitment. Just th eidea of negative streotype reinforcement is what I agree with on Patty E's comment...however when it comes to this special, I think its more along the lines of another hasbeen cameo then anything to be up in arms about.

But to Patty, I agree...I can think of 3 dozen more suitable rappers(cisqo, busta rhymes, jurassic 5, ll cool j, etc) than this washed out Snoop Dogg.