• Welcome to the Muppet Central Forum!
    You are viewing our forum as a guest. Join our free community to post topics and start private conversations. Please contact us if you need help.
  • The Muppet Show
    The must-see event of the year is here! Let us know your review of The Muppet Show special starring Sabrina Carpenter now streaming on Disney+.
  • Sesame Street Classics on YouTube
    Full episodes of classic Sesame Street have arrived on YouTube. See the latest releases and join the discussion.
  • Sesame Street debuts on Netflix
    Sesame Street Season 56 has premiered on Netflix and PBS. Let us know your thoughts on the anticipated season.
  • Back to the Rock Season 2
    Fraggle Rock Back to the Rock Season 2 has premiered on AppleTV+. Watch the anticipated new season and let us know your thoughts.
  • Sam and Friends Book
    Read our review of the long-awaited book, "Sam and Friends - The Story of Jim Henson's First Television Show" by Muppet Historian Craig Shemin.
  • Jim Henson Idea Man
    Remember the life. Honor the legacy. Inspire your soul. The new Jim Henson documentary "Idea Man" is now streaming exclusively on Disney+.
  • Bear arrives on Disney+
    The beloved series has been off the air for the past 15 years. Now all four seasons are finally available for a whole new generation.

Question Regarding The Count von Count's Early Vampiric Powers

jeremystclair

Active Member
Joined
Dec 17, 2014
Messages
30
Reaction score
8
I know that originally count von count had some more sinister elements such as more of an evil laugh and used hypnotism powers. What was the progression with that being removed as after he used hypnotism in his first appearance he apparently didn't use it again till a season later with his evil laugh being removed after 2 or 3 sketches before he used his hypnotism again. There's also the early mail skit which he has a bit of vampiric elements
 

Muppet Master

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2014
Messages
2,660
Reaction score
1,695
There was, of course, the infamous skit with Bert & Ernie and the blocks. Then, I recall another one where Count was Grover's waiter serving him hot dogs. I'm sure they slowly phased out his hypnotizing powers shortly after parents sent angry letters.

Nowadays, the Count can hardly even be called sinister or scary, if he even appears at all.
 

groverandgrapes

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 21, 2023
Messages
118
Reaction score
61
One of my theories is that parents started writing complaints about their children being scared of the count and that is why they made him more kid friendly.
 

LittleJerry92

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Messages
15,847
Reaction score
7,814
I really am not convinced the Count’s personality change came from angry letters. It could be possible, sure, but there isn’t anything to otherwise back up that being the possible case.

I’m more just convinced it’s a case of the fact that the crew of Sesame Workshop were experimenting around with his character and maybe the hypnosis thing just got old quickly.
 

YellowYahooey

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2019
Messages
842
Reaction score
172
I found the sketch with Count ordering hot dogs hilarious, especially when Grover eventually caught on to his tactic and Count used a hypnotism spell to make Grover deliver more hot dogs. Grover gave in, and repeatedly delivered hot dogs so fast until he passed out.

I find hypnotism was used in many TV shows, especially Saturday morning cartoons. I do know it was used in Shirt Tales, Richie Rich, and maybe even Scooby-Doo. I bet Smurfs and maybe even Monchhichis even had hypnotism featured in some episodes (makes sense, since those series involves heavy use of magic spells and wizardry).

Hypnotism was even depicted in a fantasy scene in one episode of Arthur.
 
Top