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Pa Gorg antagonistic towards the Fraggles

minor muppetz

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Jun 19, 2005
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While Junior Gorg was often antagonistic to the Fraggles (usually by keeping them out of the garden or wanting them as a pet, sometimes having violent motives) and Ma Gorg was afraid of the Fraggles (in a similar way to housewives being afraid of mice), Pa Gorg rarely seemed to really dislike or be an antagonist for the Fraggles. He was more about ruling the universe, raising Junior, doing things for Ma, and following Gorg traditions. Beyond perhaps rightfully wanting to keep the Fraggles from stealing their radishes, it was rare for him to really care about the Fraggles, but there were a few times when he seemed more of an antagonist to them.

In Wembley and the Gorgs, the first episode to establish/develop the Gorgs, they do seem to be a lot more evil or tyrannical than they would be later on. Pa wants royal subjects to rule, let's Wembley be a slave (which Wembley is oblivious to at first), but after catching the other Fraggles and giving them a fair trial - and finding them not guilty - he decides to make them all be his slaves, and Wembley saves them.

In Red's Club, Red is desperate to help anybody. After Cotterpin hears part of the other Fraggles discussion on Red, saying that she'd probably help a Gorg, Red thinks that's a challenge and goes to help the Gorgs with something. Ma is distraught that she dropped her favorite hanky down the well and Pa is unable to reach it, so Red gets his attention and agrees to help him. And after retrieving the hanky, Pa doesn't thank her - he instead captures her, though she quickly escapes.

And in The Gorg Who Would Be King, after Junior shrinks to Fraggle size, Pa decides that the area where they will have Junior's ceremony is infested with Fraggles and decides to blow them up. This is probably the most villainous he's been to the Fraggles, but thankfully, the episode ends with the Fraggles and Gorgs no longer enemies.

Are there any other examples of Pa hating or being more of a villain to the Fraggles than usual?


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May 20, 2002
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Pa just reacts to the moment. He's not that bad. He's just emotional. He had that moment in " The River of Life " where he was pretty straight forward with Boober concening what would happen if the water was contaminated.


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Oct 1, 2018
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I'm gonna be 100% honest here, I love the design of the puppet and the way Jerry Nelson played him but I never liked him as a character. he's just mean and self centered and thinks he's the boss of everything. Also he's a real jerk to Junior Gorg, there are plenty of kids who's parents are rude and unsupportive which I think is horrible. Sometimes it's funny given how stupid and bumbling Junior can be sometimes but most of the time it's not. And his whole "RULER OF THE UNIVERSE" gag just gets annoying sometimes

Mary Louise

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Mar 6, 2009
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Poor Junior. In more than one episode, Pa has yelled at him, "YOU DUNDERHEADED LUMMOX!"