Oh Joy...New study shows health risk in plastic bottles

[Redsonga]

I knew about the bottles, but since the sign over the apts where I live say just living here causes cancer basically, it is a darned if I do darned if I don't thing really.

The reverse psychology meant by Snowth is best seen in children. Say their parents tell them they cannot do something. Now, just because they're not allowed to do said something, they'd be likely to do said something when their parents aren't present (like the stereotype of throwing un-sanctioned parties when the parents are gone).

My ma never let me eat anything with food coloring in it..and now the fake colored cereals are basically all I eat for breakfast...So if a parent is very hard about certain things it can even carry other to adulthood as a silent form of rebelling :3

 

[Drtooth]

Here's the deal... maybe they're dangerous, maybe they aren't.

What bothers me about the whole thing is thus:

Can these be made without that chemical? And if so, can they still be made cheaply enough to satiate mass conglomerates to invest in a new plastics technology?

And are they only using this chemical because its cheap, and switching to something else would maike it a little more costly to manufacture?

Dangerous or not... if the bottom line comes first, human lives come second.

 

[Yva Minstrel]

Can these be made without that chemical?

Plastics can be made without the chemical, I know that for a fact because we did do some research on it last night. I don't know specifically the price difference, so I can't say, but it would be interesting if someone in North America could find out. The question you raise about the prices of producing bottles with versus without that particular chemical is a really good one that may clinch this whole discussion.

What we have over here is called PET bottles that are used and reused. That is, we buy a half liter, liter, or liter and a half bottle of cola or water and after we drink it, we take the bottle back to the store, get a 15 cent refund on it, and then the bottles go back to the manufacturer to be reused. They are then returned to the store where they are sold again. It may sound gross, but ecologically it is probably more sound than to use a bottle and then trash it. Through this method, they can afford to use and reuse the bottles and use a more costly plastic substance that isn't dangerous. They do have the use and discard bottles here as in the US and Canada, but I refuse to buy them, so I don't know what is in those particular bottles. I can say that the plastic is different because the PET bottles are much sturdier.

Dangerous or not... if the bottom line comes first, human lives come second.

Yeah, it certainly does look that way, doesn't it? I often think that big business and industry people who make such decisions are merely trying to cut corners and have their customers pay for it. What bothers me is that they made baby bottles using this substance. Have those people no shame?

 

[wwfpooh]

I often think that big business and industry people who make such decisions are merely trying to cut corners and have their customers pay for it.

Where's the company Peer/Professional Relations and human resource services when you need 'em? XD

Have those people no shame?

Apparently not. It seems that--anymore--it's all about the money, and that's the bottom line.

 

[Yva Minstrel]

But your father's a special case, Yva.

He most certainly is.

The reverse psychology meant by Snowth is best seen in children. Say their parents tell them they cannot do something.

Ahh, yes, now I see. Similar to Redsonga's case, my family couldn't afford kiddy cereals when I was growing up. It wasn't that I wasn't allowed to eat that stuff (which was mostly sugar) but it was something that after I grew up, I did sort of indulge in.

I can see that some kids would grow up and rebel, but I can also see that sometimes people opt to do other things.

To cite an example, when I was a kid, I used to pretend smoke candy cigarettes. Back in the 70's kids did weird stuff and I was as weird as they come. Well, my grandfather was so convinced that because I did that with candy, that I was going to grow up and smoke two packs a day. Never happened, I never even tried smoking. So, while my grandfather forbade me from 'pretend smoking' with candy cigarettes, it didn't mean that I ever was fascinated with smoking, I was happy with the candies. Of course, today, they probably taste remotely like chalk.

But I digress.

 

[wwfpooh]

But despite all the dangers in this world, as Garth Brooks sang, "And now, I'm glad I didn't know the way it all would end; the way it all would go. Our lives are better left to chance. I could've missed the pain, but I'd have had to miss...The Dance". And Garth is right in this case, because if one lives life without risk (i.e. in a bubble) or takes too many risks (thus putting themselves and those around them in danger), lives aren't really worth living, because lives--IMHO--require a balance of fun and self control, for as a certain 80's classic show said, "You take the good. You take the bad. You take them both and there you have The Facts of Life". ^_^

 

[Ilikemuppets]

Of course, today, they probably taste remotely like chalk.

Yeah, they do...

 

[wwfpooh]

Yeah, they do...

Have you actually tried 'em to varify as such?

 

[Yva Minstrel]

Have you actually tried 'em to varify as such?

I would guess that Ilikemuppets probably did try them to affirm my initial assertion about them. They were white, with weird red tip, and they were looked like white skinny pieces of chalk. I'd have to find this old friend from school who actually ate chalk and inquire. Sort of the old cola taste test thing.

Oh well, any news on the bottles? Anything else being called back over there?

 

[Redsonga]

Not really, we still have so many things here in the US being used everyday that were outlawed in just about every other part of the world...It's scary when you really think about it ...