Muppet Meeting Film Taping Dates

[Ryan]

Hey All,
Does anybody have any idea on when the 1975 Meeting Films were taped? Were they taped before or after Sex and Violence? This reel included Janice (Fran Brill), P. Fenton Cosgrove (Waldorf, Jerry Nelson) Kermit, Gonzo, and Sam, along with a speech on "Controls" with Leo. I am assuming it was taped before Sex and Violence, because Sam's voice isn't fully developed yet. Kermit has his double collar, but I don' know if he did in S&V, because he was wearing a suit in At The Dance ("I can get you on an educational show for kids.."). Janice's voice is different from the S&V voice, as well as Waldorf. His voice resembles Statler's in S&V. Also, Is the original reel's final film "Final Speech: Controls" or is it "Sell, Sell, Sell!"? My copy is Controls, but I read in an old MuppetZine that it was the second mentioned. Was there two different reels from 1975?

PS, thanks BooberGorg!!

 

[beaker]

Originally posted by Scooter
Hey All,
Does anybody have any idea on when the 1975 Meeting Films were taped? Were they taped before or after Sex and Violence? This reel included Janice (Fran Brill), P. Fenton Cosgrove (Waldorf, Jerry Nelson) Kermit, Gonzo, and Sam, along with a speech on "Controls" with Leo. I am assuming it was taped before Sex and Violence, because Sam's voice isn't fully developed yet. Kermit has his double collar, but I don' know if he did in S&V, because he was wearing a suit in At The Dance ("I can get you on an educational show for kids.."). Janice's voice is different from the S&V voice, as well as Waldorf. His voice resembles Statler's in S&V. Also, Is the original reel's final film "Final Speech: Controls" or is it "Sell, Sell, Sell!"? My copy is Controls, but I read in an old MuppetZine that it was the second mentioned. Was there two different reels from 1975?

PS, thanks BooberGorg!!

Ive never heard of of these Meeting films! Ive seen all the pilots, the CBS pitch, the Sesame Street Kermit/Ralph think tank thing, but never this...sounds more like Season 0 stuff to me!

 

[Cantus Rock]

Hey Ry!
I don't know much about these (though hopefully Mr. Pethick can help change that), but I am fairly sure the "Control" one you are speaking of is titled "Control," rather than "Sell, Sell, Sell!" I was looking for these films (which are available through business A/V sites still for ridiculous amounts of money...like, $400 for 1 7-minute tape..), and it said something about the film in question, listing "Sell, Sell, Sell!" as a skit, rather than the films title. Hope that helps, if only a very little.

(ps - tapes are in the mail! )

-Matt

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Cantus Rock
Hey Ry!
I don't know much about these (though hopefully Mr. Pethick can help change that), but I am fairly sure the "Control" one you are speaking of is titled "Control," rather than "Sell, Sell, Sell!" I was looking for these films (which are available through business A/V sites still for ridiculous amounts of money...like, $400 for 1 7-minute tape..), and it said something about the film in question, listing "Sell, Sell, Sell!" as a skit, rather than the films title. Hope that helps, if only a very little.

(ps - tapes are in the mail! )

-Matt

Thanks, Matt. My copy goes as follows : "The Muppet Introduction", "The Muppet Announcements", and "Final Speech: Controls". There are 2 different versions. The Sell Sell Sell! Version is seen (very vrey shortly) in The Muppets Celebrate JH. That one has a backround scene with pictures behind Leo, and "Controls" is just a black screen.