Thanks for the compliments guys, i'm glad yous dig em'. From the ref pics i have of him, The Muppet Movie where he's sittin in the chair behind Fozzie in the movie house,Also the pic in the George Burns episode guide He's shorter then Fozzie and plump in the face. (Wider) So, to balance his proportion out i had to make a choice of which would look right to the Over all look of the sculpt Still being able to "capture" his look in the face. As far as Shaggyer, He's not finished yet...Arms have to be done first before the outer shaggy hair is done, to maintain consistancy in the hair, this way all the outter shaggy hair is the same.