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Luke's MC Absence

Luke

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Exactly Kev, and i bet they'd make a fuss if we ever treated them like that back, but then as Jackie says, yeah relationships are complicated. Part of my dilemas right now are with my significant other and we've been together nearly six years, not that there's anything majorly wrong but due to cultures etc there's little chance of it going anywhere further either and i have to live with that everyday and put on the smiley face without trying to think about the dark days to come. The other stuff is work related, and another girl thing but i can't talk about that one here.

Then again most men and women don't seem to recognise a good thing until it's gone. Then they realise what they're missing but usually it's too late - i know right now i'd give anything to turn the clock back 7 years or so but then if i did other good things wouldn't have happened either.
 

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These roads have been majorly rocky for me. I don't know if the promises that such-n-such will happen to be broken again or not, and I've caught fibs--although guilt usually forces the truth out within hours of my already knowing it's a lie. I just play dumb, because then is when you get the final opportunity to let them corner themselves, and THEN they get defensive when you begin pointing out all the stupid things they're saying and their fault in the matter.

GOD! I'm so glad I'm honest and respectable. I would hate to be caught up in the same stuff I catch mine in.

This is also very liquor related, that while possibly doubling up on prescribed medications creating altered states of consciousness is ruining things.

I had a 10 minute apology via phone after I posted the first question above, but I'm wondering how real or how empty that apology may be. Tears could be real, but at the same time it may not be from sorrow as much as guilt, and in either case, whether forgive and forget or not, I'm suddenly questioning the validity of this entire relationship which is totally unfair to me because I'm in love...and at the same time in pain.

I just don't know what to think or do anymore. The good times are REALLY GOOD TIMES, but when they're bad they are VERY VERY BAD.
 

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Luke said:
i know right now i'd give anything to turn the clock back 7 years or so but then if i did other good things wouldn't have happened either.
Hey good to see ya poppin back on here more. Aw the clock thing, I think a lot of us would love to be at the controls of that switch. I would love nothing more than to go back to the 80's(when I was happy and naive) or to the future(where Im successful and married)

Fozzie Bear said:
I just don't know what to think or do anymore. The good times are REALLY GOOD TIMES, but when they're bad they are VERY VERY BAD.
I read your post Kevin, about your break up. Im sorry man...yeah 8 months is a long time, and it would be nice to think these sort of things, once they go sour, should be amicable. But you are a very funny, creative, and intelligent fun loving guy...only a matter of time before you find someone even better.

But yes...indeed, that is the roller coaster things seem to be set at...life can be quite an anomaly. Recently, within a week my best friend online of 5 years passed away, and then I ran into in real life by happenstance this girl I had been madly in love(Also for about 5 years, also online) with for several years. You just never know with these things.

Aw yes, relationships. The very thing which has eluded me for a lifetime.
I seem to have a no relationship clause in my birth contract, atoning the hubris as I ascend an aria of sorrow. I have walked that endless desert...but I have a strong faith and a dream I shall find my soul mate, who is out there, somwhere. I believe it is prophecy, destiny.
I believe one day the Muppets will be back to a new glory...I believe I will finally get back to the happiness in life that was cut off after 1989.
Our strength is in our future...it is just the baby steps toward achieving that goal that is the hard part, and sitting in the waiting room of uncertainty reading People magazine and chewing on candy.
 

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Fozzie Bear said:
This is also very liquor related, that while possibly doubling up on prescribed medications creating altered states of consciousness is ruining things.
I had a 10 minute apology via phone after I posted the first question above, but I'm wondering how real or how empty that apology may be. Tears could be real, but at the same time it may not be from sorrow as much as guilt, and in either case, whether forgive and forget or not, I'm suddenly questioning the validity of this entire relationship which is totally unfair to me because I'm in love...and at the same time in pain.
I just don't know what to think or do anymore. The good times are REALLY GOOD TIMES, but when they're bad they are VERY VERY BAD.

Kev, I can't even describe how very sad I feel for you. I haven't been there, but I know many people who have. However much you may love her, this is too much, especially with substance abuse involved. She needs help, more than you can give her. Besides, she has betrayed your trust, and not just once. However much you may be in love, and even, however much you may want to help her, this is NOT healthy, not for her, and certainly not for you.
I'm probably WAY out of line here, and I know this isn't something you want to hear, but I'm saying this as a friend who loves you and cares about you, and doesn't want you to get hurt. Please try to understand that.
 

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Manda:-D said:
Kev, I can't even describe how very sad I feel for you. I haven't been there, but I know many people who have. However much you may love her, this is too much, especially with substance abuse involved. She needs help, more than you can give her. Besides, she has betrayed your trust, and not just once. However much you may be in love, and even, however much you may want to help her, this is NOT healthy, not for her, and certainly not for you.
I'm probably WAY out of line here, and I know this isn't something you want to hear, but I'm saying this as a friend who loves you and cares about you, and doesn't want you to get hurt. Please try to understand that.
Need I say more?

Anyway, Kev, Luke, I hope things work out for you two. Relationships are tricky. I'm very sorry things have turned out the way they have, but, sadly, sometimes that's the way things go...

So, here... :embarrassed: :zany: :embarrassed: :zany: :embarrassed: <-- The two were conveniently next to each other while writing.
 

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Oops. I didn't mean to turn this into a thread about me, just wanted opinions about things.

Actually, things turned out kind of okay. There wasn't a break-up, although I almost let it go. There was some crying, pleading, and apologizing, and I gave in. Although Friday was kind of weird during the 'patching things up,' Saturday was good, as was Sunday.

Thanks for the support, folks. But I don't even know if my Penguin Pal is out of the water!! :zany:

Luke! How's your world?
 
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