I won't be posting anymore...

[Sgt Floyd]

I dont want to leave forever. I have been an active member here longer than any other forum. I have joined others, and I am lucky to stick around for maybe a month before I leave for whatever reasons. So thats gotta say something about my relation here.

 

[BornToWemble]

There was a lot more negativity here what I imagined. When I joined I expected a lot more.... I don't know. Love? I see a lot of bitterness and negativity even when talking civilly. I've seen a lot of people casting aspersions and putting words in people's mouths since I came here, not just in conversations I've been in, but ones I read as well. I don't need that in my life, I get enough of that. I came here thinking I could get away from all that, at least see less than usual and I just see more of it. I thought I just got into some bumpy topics here and there but I keep seeing it everywhere.

I see a lot of people snipping at each other and even a little bit of bullying at times and it's not something I want to be a part of. There's just not a feeling of being able to speak freely even when it's not negative, no matter what it's about. That sort of feeling drives me nuts and even though I haven't been here long I think it's best I get out while I'm ahead and just stick to tumblr.

I just expected a lot more love and tolerance despite differences in a place that celebrates Jim Henson. I was sadly mistaken and I can't handle hypocrisy and hate of any kind. Nor can I stand double standards when it comes to bigotry. Too many red flags going up for me.

I had a little fun while it lasted. Bye everyone.

 

[frogboy4]

There was a lot more negativity here what I imagined. When I joined I expected a lot more.... I don't know. Love? I see a lot of bitterness and negativity even when talking civilly. I've seen a lot of people casting aspersions and putting words in people's mouths since I came here, not just in conversations I've been in, but ones I read as well. I don't need that in my life, I get enough of that. I came here thinking I could get away from all that, at least see less than usual and I just see more of it. I thought I just got into some bumpy topics here and there but I keep seeing it everywhere.

I see a lot of people snipping at each other and even a little bit of bullying at times and it's not something I want to be a part of. There's just not a feeling of being able to speak freely even when it's not negative, no matter what it's about. That sort of feeling drives me nuts and even though I haven't been here long I think it's best I get out while I'm ahead and just stick to tumblr.

I just expected a lot more love and tolerance despite differences in a place that celebrates Jim Henson. I was sadly mistaken and I can't handle hypocrisy and hate of any kind. Nor can I stand double standards when it comes to bigotry. Too many red flags going up for me.

I had a little fun while it lasted. Bye everyone.

Much of those accusations should be pointed your way. You are not a victim.

 

[BornToWemble]

Much of those accusations should be pointed your way. You are not a victim.

I never said I was. Am I the only one who has said there's negativity here? No. Did I say I wasn't guilty of some of it? No. Kindly get off your high horse and your words out of my **** mouth. I'm at least removing myself from it, which is more than I can say for you and some others. But I am SO sorry I don't agree with your attitude that double standards for tolerance. Either way, all I said was I was leaving and explaining why, so I don't know why you decided to say anything despite something wrong with you needing the last word. Get over yourself.

Anyway, the only reason I came back was because I need to ask how I turn off getting alerts from the forum. I can't seem to figure it out and turning it off here will probably work better than making an email filter since mine rarely work. :/ I used one of my important emails without realizing it and when I went to check something I noticed all the alerts. Or if there's a way to delete my account or have it banned is fine too, I just need a reliable way to not have the clutter.

 

[Sgt Floyd]

You appear to have to go to every thread you poseted in, click more options next to post reply, and uncheck recieve email alets. I cant tell if you actually need to post something for it to work.

alternatively, block MC directly from your email account

 

[frogboy4]

I never said I was. Am I the only one who has said there's negativity here? No. Did I say I wasn't guilty of some of it? No. Kindly get off your high horse and your words out of my **** mouth. I'm at least removing myself from it, which is more than I can say for you and some others. But I am SO sorry I don't agree with your attitude that double standards for tolerance. Either way, all I said was I was leaving and explaining why, so I don't know why you decided to say anything despite something wrong with you needing the last word. Get over yourself.

Anyway, the only reason I came back was because I need to ask how I turn off getting alerts from the forum. I can't seem to figure it out and turning it off here will probably work better than making an email filter since mine rarely work. :/ I used one of my important emails without realizing it and when I went to check something I noticed all the alerts. Or if there's a way to delete my account or have it banned is fine too, I just need a reliable way to not have the clutter.

I'll stick up for my friends here because that's what friends do. Dude, you've come into a community of members who have been here over a decade, say a lot of inflammatory stuff in support of Satanism and Nazism, judge us all for not living up to your arbitrary standards, then take your ball and go home. There's no high road there. Just a bitter person trolling here (and likely elsewhere from what i've been told). All incidents are being forwarded to the appropriate moderators at this and other forums. It's nice to be able to throw stones from a house of anonymity. Muppet Central has never been nor never will be a place that tolerates the support of Nazism. Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[BornToWemble]

I'll stick up for my friends here because that's what friends do. Dude, you've come into a community of members who have been here over a decade, say a lot of inflammatory stuff in support of Satanism and Nazism, judge us all for not living up to your arbitrary standards, then take your ball and go home. There's no high road there. Just a bitter person trolling here (and likely elsewhere from what i've been told). All incidents are being forwarded to the appropriate moderators at this and other forums. It's nice to be able to throw stones from a house of anonymity. Muppet Central has never been nor never will be a place that tolerates the support of Nazism. Sorry to disappoint you.

Inflammatory? Hardly. I'm not the one saying that tolerance was only for some. Judging people based on who they are and not one part of them is all I was talking about. I was talking about if you're saying everyone should come together, you shouldn't exclude some. I was talking about doing your best not to be a bigot toward anyone.

I never said I supported Nazism or Satanism. You need to re-read things. Maybe carefully this time instead of getting up in arms and assuming crap. I never said I supported Hitler or anything like that. I said I knew some Nazis and that they weren't all what you would typically think. I was stating what I knew of Nazism and my personal experiences with some Nazis. I feel bad for you if you don't feel you can be friends with anyone outside of your own set of beliefs. Because that's all I was talking about. I have friends who are that and your type of attitude is what gets some of them beaten on even though they've never done harm to anyone. If that was happening to someone who wasn't a Nazi, you'd be outraged, and that was my whole point. It's only okay for you to defend your friends apparently? Psh.

My not agreeing with being a bigot, even towards bigots does not make me a troll. Not agreeing with you doesn't make me a troll. I was on this forum having plenty of nice conversations. If I was a troll why would I do that? Why would I try to be civil? You're assuming a lot about me when I don't even know you and vice versa. I don't know what else you're accusing me of but if i were you I would once again, deflate that ego and actually check before you make accusations. I don't know why you seem to keep threatening me with moderator action from this or any other forum. This is the only forum I've been on for years and I'm leaving it. I'm not trying to take an road. It's just a forum and I'm leaving. Not solely for that thread or any other. I had been playing around with the idea of leaving for that and other reasons. All I said was I was removing myself from that negativity and you decided to come and keep instigating it. You see to think you're a big hotshot for some reason and I'm not impressed. You're not a better person than me or anyone else on this planet.

And again, the support of Nazism in your mind is solely in there, because I think people should be treated like people or because you saw a picture of something Nazi related on my tumblr or what because I never said anything about it. But I support treating people like people no matter what. Because I actually know some nazis and actually know a bit about Nazism which is a lot more than I can say for you. You think you know but clearly you don't. Which is clear by your thinking Nazism and National Socialism are different things and the false notion that all of them have to and believe what you falsely think is the 'core' of it. I'm betting you and some of your friends are the same kind of people who applaud stories like when a Nazis grandson started kindergarden that he got beaten half to death by a holocaust survivor who was the gardener there because he was 'just as guilty as him'.(not so nice having things assumed about you is it?)

But I never said anything of the sort of supporting it here or anywhere else. My comments were neutral. Just in support of being good to anyone and not making sweeping generalizations. Again, if this was about a religion, sexuality, gender, racial or political group of any kind we wouldn't be having this conversation and you wouldn't be accusing me of things that are untrue. And again, if you would READ you would see one of the only reasons I brought it up was because while people were going on about conspiracy theories, they said people of all groups should join together and included communists, who have done more harm and cause more hate than facists, nazis or satanists.

In the end, I thought I was having a civil conversation, I went to bed, and I came back on the next day getting chewed out for apparently for actually wanting real tolerance and love instead of ones that have exceptions. Haven't you ever heard 'Love your enemies'? Tolerance isn't tolerance if you think some people are excluded from being treated like human beings like everyone else.

The only thing I'm disappointed in is how idiotic you're being about my trying to express my opinion civilly and in your cowardice of trying to get the last word after what would have been my leaving if not for technical difficulties. You need to get over yourself and realize people aren't always going to agree with you but you can try your best to be nice about it. I would think someone your age would.

You appear to have to go to every thread you poseted in, click more options next to post reply, and uncheck recieve email alets. I cant tell if you actually need to post something for it to work.

alternatively, block MC directly from your email account

Thanks. I'll see if I can do that. I've tried the email block before but it's never quite worked.

EDIT: I think I figured it out, thanks!

 

[frogboy4]

Inflammatory? Hardly. I'm not the one saying that tolerance was only for some. Judging people based on who they are and not one part of them is all I was talking about. I was talking about if you're saying everyone should come together, you shouldn't exclude some. I was talking about doing your best not to be a bigot toward anyone.

I never said I supported Nazism or Satanism. You need to re-read things. Maybe carefully this time instead of getting up in arms and assuming crap. I never said I supported Hitler or anything like that. I said I knew some Nazis and that they weren't all what you would typically think. I was stating what I knew of Nazism and my personal experiences with some Nazis. I feel bad for you if you don't feel you can be friends with anyone outside of your own set of beliefs. Because that's all I was talking about. I have friends who are that and your type of attitude is what gets some of them beaten on even though they've never done harm to anyone. If that was happening to someone who wasn't a Nazi, you'd be outraged, and that was my whole point. It's only okay for you to defend your friends apparently? Psh.

My not agreeing with being a bigot, even towards bigots does not make me a troll. Not agreeing with you doesn't make me a troll. I was on this forum having plenty of nice conversations. If I was a troll why would I do that? Why would I try to be civil? You're assuming a lot about me when I don't even know you and vice versa. I don't know what else you're accusing me of but if i were you I would once again, deflate that ego and actually check before you make accusations. I don't know why you seem to keep threatening me with moderator action from this or any other forum. This is the only forum I've been on for years and I'm leaving it. I'm not trying to take an road. It's just a forum and I'm leaving. Not solely for that thread or any other. I had been playing around with the idea of leaving for that and other reasons. All I said was I was removing myself from that negativity and you decided to come and keep instigating it. You see to think you're a big hotshot for some reason and I'm not impressed. You're not a better person than me or anyone else on this planet.

And again, the support of Nazism in your mind is solely in there, because I think people should be treated like people or because you saw a picture of something Nazi related on my tumblr or what because I never said anything about it. But I support treating people like people no matter what. Because I actually know some nazis and actually know a bit about Nazism which is a lot more than I can say for you. You think you know but clearly you don't. Which is clear by your thinking Nazism and National Socialism are different things and the false notion that all of them have to and believe what you falsely think is the 'core' of it. I'm betting you and some of your friends are the same kind of people who applaud stories like when a Nazis grandson started kindergarden that he got beaten half to death by a holocaust survivor who was the gardener there because he was 'just as guilty as him'.(not so nice having things assumed about you is it?)

But I never said anything of the sort of supporting it here or anywhere else. My comments were neutral. Just in support of being good to anyone and not making sweeping generalizations. Again, if this was about a religion, sexuality, gender, racial or political group of any kind we wouldn't be having this conversation and you wouldn't be accusing me of things that are untrue. And again, if you would READ you would see one of the only reasons I brought it up was because while people were going on about conspiracy theories, they said people of all groups should join together and included communists, who have done more harm and cause more hate than facists, nazis or satanists.

In the end, I thought I was having a civil conversation, I went to bed, and I came back on the next day getting chewed out for apparently for actually wanting real tolerance and love instead of ones that have exceptions. Haven't you ever heard 'Love your enemies'? Tolerance isn't tolerance if you think some people are excluded from being treated like human beings like everyone else.

The only thing I'm disappointed in is how idiotic you're being about my trying to express my opinion civilly and in your cowardice of trying to get the last word after what would have been my leaving if not for technical difficulties. You need to get over yourself and realize people aren't always going to agree with you but you can try your best to be nice about it. I would think someone your age would.

Thanks. I'll see if I can do that. I've tried the email block before but it's never quite worked.

EDIT: I think I figured it out, thanks!

I suspect this is not the only community that you have caused trouble. I believe the uncivilized way you've reacted in this forum and this thread speaks for itself against my 11 years of membership and service to this forum along with other members like Beaker who have been here even longer than me. We have all types here, but the heavy-handed way you came here should probably be considered the next time you join a forum or community. Good luck in your future endeavors.

 

[a_Mickey_Muppet]

I welcome you to stay around and be friendly with everyone; but, if you're going to go then just simply go. There is no need to make a big deal of it for attention and hope folks are going to beg you to stay.

I know this post is 5 years old but I AGREE 100% here! Dont post threads saying "Ohhh I just dont know anymore..maybe i'll leave".

 

[Fozzie Bear]

BornToWemble; your posts are not welcome here. That isn't at all the way a fan of Jim's work reacts or promotes behavior. Bye.

I can't find his screenname--did he delete his own account? Good.