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It seems like The Jim Henson Company has had a sort of "chain of importance" regarding it's properties. The order seems to be:
Here are some reasons to think this.
First, I'll use The Muppets: A Celebration of 30 Years. In the audience are mostly characters from The Muppet Show, and then several Sesame Street characters (though not as many as TMS). While many Muppet Show characters who hadn't been used in years were present (such as Hilda, Wanda, Doglion, Behemoth, and George), and while a few Sama nd Friends characters were used for the first time since the 1960s, it seems like this special didn't have any retired Sesame Street characters (like Roosevelt Franklin, Herbert Birdsfoot, and Sam the Robot), just characters who were currently being used in new material. And only two Fraggle Rock characters, Traveling Matt and Sprocket, were there. Of course, continuity wise it makes since for them to be the only Fraggle Rock characters in attendance.
And let's review what clips are shown. Most of the clips are from The Muppet Show, the Muppet movies, and various specials. There is a section of Sesame Street clips, starting with a montage of clips played over the theme song, followed by more featured clips. A clip from the original version of Rubber Duckie is shown in another part of the special, and the opening montage features two clips from Sesame Street. Sam and Friends has two or three clips shown in it's own section, shared with some commercial clips. Such clips are also shown in other montages. But Fraggle Rock, Muppet Babies, and Little Muppet Monsters are pretty much just thrown togetehr into one montage. The Muppet Babies montage begins with a clip from the Muppet Babies sequence from The Muppets Take Manhattan, with clips from the show eventualy playing over the song "I'm Gonna Always Love You": (as opposed to the theme song). That's the only series where the theme song isn't heard anywhere in the special (though the Mupet Show theme is only heard as an instrumental). Then we get a clip from the first epsiode of Little Muppet Monsters, followed by the theme song while more clips from the show are shown (I'm assuming that all those clips weren't part of the theme). And then we get a featured clip from the first episode of Fraggle Rock, followed by the theme which plays over a montgae of clips from different episodes. Only two other montages in the special include Fraggle Rock clips, while the other two shows don't have any clips elsewhere.
And now let's take a look at Jim Henson: The Works. There's the obligatory chapter on Jim Henson's early works, including Sam and Friends. There's a big chapter on Sesame Street. The Muppet Show gets it's own chapter, and then there's a chapter on the movies. The creature shop gets it's own chapter, but then there's a chapter on Henson's childrens programs, featuring sections on Fragle Rock, Muppet Babies, and others, as opposed to FR or MB getting their own chapters.
And let's now think about another book, The Story of Jim Henson: Creator of the Muppets. Like Jim Henson: The Works, this book has seperate chapters on Henson's early works, Sesame Street, The Muppet Show, the movies (or perhaps more accurately, the popularity of the Muppets, but the movies are the main focus), the creature shop (lumping The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth togetehr), and childrens shows from Henson. Fraggle Rock and Muppet Babies are both mentioend here, without their own chapters. The chapters on Sesame Street and The Muppet Show mention quite a few characters form thsoe shows, but there's no mention of any Fraggle Rock or Mupet Babies characters by name. The first few chapters do mention people who started working with Jim Henson in the early days, like Jane Henson, Jerry Juhl, and Frank Oz, and these people (and Henson's kids) are mentioned throughout the book. The chapter on Sesame Street mentions Carol Spinney, while the chapter on The Muppet Show is the only chapter to mention Jerry Nelson, Richard Hunt, and Dave Goelz (and also mentions who they performed), while other performers (Steve Whitmire, Kathy Mullen, Kevin Clash) aren't even mentioned in the book (though Whitmire and Clash are pictured in a photo from Henson's memorial service). But the Fraggle Rock performers and Muppet Babies voice actors aren't mentioned.
And let's shift over to The World of Jim Henson. Now, I'll admit that I've only taped half of this special, ending when fotage of The Storyteller is shown, and don't remember much of what's shown afterwards. But from what I'm sure of, The Muppet Show and movies dominate the documentary, with clips in the openign montage and a big section on that show, followed by a section on the movies. It once again begins with a section on Sam and Friends and other early works, and there's a big section on Sesame Street (and a handful of clips are in the opening montage). But the Fraggle Rock section is short, mostly focusing on Cantus, one of Jim Henson's few FR characters. I don't think this special even has any clips from Muppet Babies.
And finally, there's the CNN People's Profiles special (actualy there's more, but this is all that I know of). I've only seen this special once, and I can't even remember if there is anything about Fraggle Rock or Mupet Babies in this special, but there are a lot of clips from Sam and Friends, The Muppet Show, and Sesame Street.
Wait, there's two more things to mention. First, A Muppet Family Christmas. The majority of the special features characters from The Muppet Show. Doc and Sprocket from Fraggle Rock are also featured throughout the special, while the Fraggles only make a big cameo appearance, and show up briefly in the carol sing (while Traveling Matt is there for most of the sequence). And Muppet Babies is represented in a film projector. The Sesame Street characters seem to get half the screen time as The Muppet Show cast, as they appear halfway through the special, and stay for most of the rest.
And in The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson, a special that I hadn't seen but know a lot about, the finale features mostly Muppet Show characters, two Jim Henson Hour characters, a small number of Sesame Street characters, and only three of the five main fraggles.
Anybody notice all this?
- The Muppet Show (and related productions)
- Sesame Street
- Fraggle Rock
- Other prodcutions (though I think Sam and Friends goes a little bit between Sesame Street and Fraggle Rock, but I'm not sure if it should be listed here)
Here are some reasons to think this.
First, I'll use The Muppets: A Celebration of 30 Years. In the audience are mostly characters from The Muppet Show, and then several Sesame Street characters (though not as many as TMS). While many Muppet Show characters who hadn't been used in years were present (such as Hilda, Wanda, Doglion, Behemoth, and George), and while a few Sama nd Friends characters were used for the first time since the 1960s, it seems like this special didn't have any retired Sesame Street characters (like Roosevelt Franklin, Herbert Birdsfoot, and Sam the Robot), just characters who were currently being used in new material. And only two Fraggle Rock characters, Traveling Matt and Sprocket, were there. Of course, continuity wise it makes since for them to be the only Fraggle Rock characters in attendance.
And let's review what clips are shown. Most of the clips are from The Muppet Show, the Muppet movies, and various specials. There is a section of Sesame Street clips, starting with a montage of clips played over the theme song, followed by more featured clips. A clip from the original version of Rubber Duckie is shown in another part of the special, and the opening montage features two clips from Sesame Street. Sam and Friends has two or three clips shown in it's own section, shared with some commercial clips. Such clips are also shown in other montages. But Fraggle Rock, Muppet Babies, and Little Muppet Monsters are pretty much just thrown togetehr into one montage. The Muppet Babies montage begins with a clip from the Muppet Babies sequence from The Muppets Take Manhattan, with clips from the show eventualy playing over the song "I'm Gonna Always Love You": (as opposed to the theme song). That's the only series where the theme song isn't heard anywhere in the special (though the Mupet Show theme is only heard as an instrumental). Then we get a clip from the first epsiode of Little Muppet Monsters, followed by the theme song while more clips from the show are shown (I'm assuming that all those clips weren't part of the theme). And then we get a featured clip from the first episode of Fraggle Rock, followed by the theme which plays over a montgae of clips from different episodes. Only two other montages in the special include Fraggle Rock clips, while the other two shows don't have any clips elsewhere.
And now let's take a look at Jim Henson: The Works. There's the obligatory chapter on Jim Henson's early works, including Sam and Friends. There's a big chapter on Sesame Street. The Muppet Show gets it's own chapter, and then there's a chapter on the movies. The creature shop gets it's own chapter, but then there's a chapter on Henson's childrens programs, featuring sections on Fragle Rock, Muppet Babies, and others, as opposed to FR or MB getting their own chapters.
And let's now think about another book, The Story of Jim Henson: Creator of the Muppets. Like Jim Henson: The Works, this book has seperate chapters on Henson's early works, Sesame Street, The Muppet Show, the movies (or perhaps more accurately, the popularity of the Muppets, but the movies are the main focus), the creature shop (lumping The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth togetehr), and childrens shows from Henson. Fraggle Rock and Muppet Babies are both mentioend here, without their own chapters. The chapters on Sesame Street and The Muppet Show mention quite a few characters form thsoe shows, but there's no mention of any Fraggle Rock or Mupet Babies characters by name. The first few chapters do mention people who started working with Jim Henson in the early days, like Jane Henson, Jerry Juhl, and Frank Oz, and these people (and Henson's kids) are mentioned throughout the book. The chapter on Sesame Street mentions Carol Spinney, while the chapter on The Muppet Show is the only chapter to mention Jerry Nelson, Richard Hunt, and Dave Goelz (and also mentions who they performed), while other performers (Steve Whitmire, Kathy Mullen, Kevin Clash) aren't even mentioned in the book (though Whitmire and Clash are pictured in a photo from Henson's memorial service). But the Fraggle Rock performers and Muppet Babies voice actors aren't mentioned.
And let's shift over to The World of Jim Henson. Now, I'll admit that I've only taped half of this special, ending when fotage of The Storyteller is shown, and don't remember much of what's shown afterwards. But from what I'm sure of, The Muppet Show and movies dominate the documentary, with clips in the openign montage and a big section on that show, followed by a section on the movies. It once again begins with a section on Sam and Friends and other early works, and there's a big section on Sesame Street (and a handful of clips are in the opening montage). But the Fraggle Rock section is short, mostly focusing on Cantus, one of Jim Henson's few FR characters. I don't think this special even has any clips from Muppet Babies.
And finally, there's the CNN People's Profiles special (actualy there's more, but this is all that I know of). I've only seen this special once, and I can't even remember if there is anything about Fraggle Rock or Mupet Babies in this special, but there are a lot of clips from Sam and Friends, The Muppet Show, and Sesame Street.
Wait, there's two more things to mention. First, A Muppet Family Christmas. The majority of the special features characters from The Muppet Show. Doc and Sprocket from Fraggle Rock are also featured throughout the special, while the Fraggles only make a big cameo appearance, and show up briefly in the carol sing (while Traveling Matt is there for most of the sequence). And Muppet Babies is represented in a film projector. The Sesame Street characters seem to get half the screen time as The Muppet Show cast, as they appear halfway through the special, and stay for most of the rest.
And in The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson, a special that I hadn't seen but know a lot about, the finale features mostly Muppet Show characters, two Jim Henson Hour characters, a small number of Sesame Street characters, and only three of the five main fraggles.
Anybody notice all this?