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Yes, Kermit has been sold out since December 2007 from MR so his price will likely only increase over time as he becomes more and more rare. Gonzo has probably hit bottom at $60-$70. It's hard to imagine him being any cheaper. MR still has Gonzos in-stock brand new even though they are the distributor. So apparently there are a lot of Gonzos out there that just aren't selling, hence the reasons for the drastic price cuts.