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Fraggles in Water

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Frogster, Aug 22, 2004.

  1. Frogster

    Frogster Well-Known Member

    I've seen Red wet SOOO many times, Mokey once, and Gobo wore a shark fin in the water in "Red's Sea Monster." I was wondering what episodes you see one or more fraggle wet and if someone could list them for me. :excited:
  2. muppetmayhem

    muppetmayhem Well-Known Member

    That is a wierd thing to ask. I don't really pay that much attention to who is wet. But I do wonder if Henson goes through the trouble of drying his puppets once they have gotten wet. Do you think he dries them? Or do you think he just uses another puppet in the wet ones place? :smirk:
  3. Frogster

    Frogster Well-Known Member

    I think he has two different puppets of the same character ready. I thought I'd ask because it just crossed my mind the other day. Does any one know what episodes Boober, Wembley, and Gobo have been wet in?
  4. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    One Fraggle jumps in the water in the opening. :excited: And in one episode Red makes friends with a sea monster. I'm not sure if it's wet or not.
  5. Wembley

    Wembley Well-Known Member

    Actually, you're kinda right. Someone explained this to me once - The puppet is basically part of the bottom of the water - So, for instance, you have a bowl, a hole in the bottom, with the puppet body (a waterproof version) sealed to the bottom of the hole, so that you can reach up and manipulate the puppet in the water. The water has to be colored or shot on edge so that you don't see that the puppet is basically attached to the bottom of the lake, bathtub, toilet, or whatever the character is swimming in.

    As far as jumping into the water, a simpler waterproof body would be used - since it's being thrown into the water, it can travel through the scene so fast that you dont have time to examine the puppet closely and you don't notice that its less detailed than the puppets you see every day. It's all camera tricks. :)

    That's how it was explained to me. Whether or not thats how it was done I'm not sure of, but it seems to be a good theory.....

    -Rick "Wembely" Miller
    ...You can NOT leave the magic!
  6. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    Plus, I think they use older puppets that are worn out for stunts like that.
  7. ravagefrackle

    ravagefrackle Well-Known Member

    also there are puppets built for use only in water since it tends to fade the dies in the fabric after a time, so the ones u se in water are not the same as the ones you see all drie running aroound the rock, it would be almost impossible to use the same puppets on set for water tricks and basic stuff, its hard enough to drie out the sweat from a hard day of puppeteering under the hot studio lights :smirk:
  8. muppetmayhem

    muppetmayhem Well-Known Member

    how would the puppeteers be able to control the movements of the fraggle, or any creature, in water. The puppeteers are underneath the puppet. How would they be able to move the puppet but keep themselves dry?
  9. muppetmayhem

    muppetmayhem Well-Known Member

    oops... I missed what you said there Wembley. they build the puppet attached to the bowl. the seems are sealed and the interior of the puppet is a rubber glove. So you don't get wet. :excited:
  10. ravagefrackle

    ravagefrackle Well-Known Member

    onlythe gloves are attached to the "pool". the puppet is put on over the glove so it can be removed
  11. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Karen Prell discussed some of this at MuppetFest, saying that above your head was the pool, and your hand fit into a glove through the bottom, and you had all this water above you and all these electrical wires below you.

    Hopefully she'll pop in here and give us a full write-up about this. Or, maybe Terry Angus (ButchCat), since he worked on the show, too??
  12. Xerus

    Xerus Well-Known Member

    I don't think Boober's ever gotten wet, mainly because if his hair did get wet, it would become flat and you'd find out he doesn't have any eyes.
  13. Infinity Sirius

    Infinity Sirius Well-Known Member

    Remember in the Great Muppet Caper, Piggy had an entire water scene with her swimming in a pool.
  14. muppetmayhem

    muppetmayhem Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah. How in the world did they do that scene? Did the people put on there suba diving suits and went into the water with Piggy. How would they be able to do that? Reply. :concern:
  15. baby sinclair

    baby sinclair Well-Known Member

    Thats why i like older films because they always make you wonder how they did that and it totally amazing.Now a days the guessing game is very easy to beat two words COMPUTER GENERATION.
  16. Iggy35

    Iggy35 Well-Known Member

    Frank was really underwater with his feet attatched to the bottom of the pool...Jim Henson, The Works, I do believe.

  17. G-MAN

    G-MAN Well-Known Member

    Then there was the time in The Frog Prince when it showed Kermit swimming in the water at the end of the special, they probably used the same kind of puppet for that sequence too.

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