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Congress Votes: Stop Funding PBS-VOTERS WRITE!

Fozzie Bear

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I don't know if it's able to be called a direct attack, but I did sign the petition.

I HOPE we all can make some kind of change. I emailed my whole address book, and posted on every forum I visit, and wrote my senators/congressmen and I hope to see good results later.
 

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Normally, Drtooth, I get peeved over gross generalisations of christianity, but as I am not american, and I am also far from anything you've described these christians to be, I'll overlook it and choose not to take offense. It is very sad though, that religion must be so inappropritately used in politics. And I do mean used.
 

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On a personal note, anybody who says that the Christians have any say-so in any matter is just completely wrong. Of all denominational statuses and of all organized groups, Christians are the most condemned people there are, and are discriminated against over all other religions. Christians have no say-so in politics or television, and the only way they can get anything ON television is by funding it themselves, not even by commercial sponsorship because corporations are too afraid of insulting some OTHER religious group. The Christians have nothing to do with what's going on with PBS.

In other news, I've been told by someone much older than me that at one time SS was syndicated on regular TV stations, and it's likely that it would be again if public funding cuts resulted in that necessity.

I do not believe we'll see the end of SS because of this.
 

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MrsPepper said:
Normally, Drtooth, I get peeved over gross generalisations of christianity, but as I am not american, and I am also far from anything you've described these christians to be, I'll overlook it and choose not to take offense. It is very sad though, that religion must be so inappropritately used in politics. And I do mean used.
I should have been more specific. I mean the far FAAAAAR right Christians, comprised of PTL type preachers. The ones who specifically use their opinions for political gains, and work their motivations into their religious practices. Sorry If I caused any distress. But I am a Christian as well, heck, my father is an ordained minister (as of Sunday... he's been trying for years).

I should have been more specific, and said the politically motivated pseudo christians. The ones that exhibit very Un-Christian like behavior. But, I guess in a fit of pent up rage of how the government is working nowadays (The overly effective Republican votes, and the wimpy Doormat Democratic votes) I left out important details.


I meant to say.... The government is using the case of Tolerence as a political blinder for the fact that Congress has threatened to slash PBS funding for years. Of course being several Billion in the hole, they needed a way to cut funding for something. But again, this is the same legislature that once paid several thousand for a toilet seat.

So once again, I appologize if I had, in a bout of anger over the issue, have accidentally offended you dudes. S'all right?
 

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Drtooth said:
I should have been more specific. I mean the far FAAAAAR right Christians, comprised of PTL type preachers.
Oh. I thought you meant the REAL Christians; but, I understand now. You mean as in Pat Robertson (or maybe Jerry Falwell) who stated that Teletubbies represents homosexuality, or the "We Are Family" video whose website was not correctly connected by a group, or the time they said Yoda represented demons because his use of the Force and he had 3 fingers.
 

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Drtooth said:
I should have been more specific. I mean the far FAAAAAR right Christians, comprised of PTL type preachers. The ones who specifically use their opinions for political gains, and work their motivations into their religious practices. Sorry If I caused any distress. But I am a Christian as well, heck, my father is an ordained minister (as of Sunday... he's been trying for years).

I should have been more specific, and said the politically motivated pseudo christians. The ones that exhibit very Un-Christian like behavior. But, I guess in a fit of pent up rage of how the government is working nowadays (The overly effective Republican votes, and the wimpy Doormat Democratic votes) I left out important details.


I meant to say.... The government is using the case of Tolerence as a political blinder for the fact that Congress has threatened to slash PBS funding for years. Of course being several Billion in the hole, they needed a way to cut funding for something. But again, this is the same legislature that once paid several thousand for a toilet seat.

So once again, I appologize if I had, in a bout of anger over the issue, have accidentally offended you dudes. S'all right?

Yes, everything is fine. : ) Thank you for clarifying, it's much appreciated. Another forum I spend time on has alot of religious and political discussions (alot of which are unfounded, biased, or uneducated), so I've gotten used to defending my position, even when it's not always necessary. :embarrassed: From what you've said, I now understand your point of view, since you do know what you're talking about, and meant no offence. And I have absolutely no hard feelings. :big_grin:
Congrats on your dad just becoming a minister!

So, back to it, eh? I must admit I'm horribly undereducated about this whole situation, and I'm not entirely aware of the whole situation.
Is it because of old debt, then, that they are cutting the funding, and people who are just against the Bush admin are pinning it on him? If that is true, it still doesn't make it right that they are using the whole issue of "tolerance", did you say, to justify why they are making the cuts. Do I have this right?
**Is a little confused**
 

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Drtooth said:
I am outraged, as you can plainly see. I'll get into depth about what I think is the real reason they want to stop funding.

As we all remember, the only reason Bush won the election is because the christian right was trying to spread fear about Homosexual marriage ("one may even marry you") and abortion ("they are going to take your babies' lives'") so they'd have a puppet in washington. Bush used this agenda to cover up the war and the terrible economy his tax cuts caused.

But the PBS thing? Congress has been threatening to pull funding from PBS for YEARS... even since the Clinton adminsistration. They are using the "Postcards from Buster" episode as an excuse to get people to think this is the right thing to do.

Now.... I have seen this episode. It features homosexual partners raising adopted (and well adjusted, might I add) kids. Now, the episode doesn't even acknowledge the fact they are gay, nor do they even discuss what "gay" is. Even still, the head of PBS (who is rightwing, mind you) denounced the episode, and let stations run it on their own disgression, a lot of them not airing it.

The obvious factor is the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy (and paltry sums to the non-wealthy), especially during times of war was just a dumb thing to do. No other way to describe it. Less money means less money for education, job education, health, and public broadcasting. Now, to sweeten this up to the general public, they're going to out and out lie, blaiming Buster for the entire thing. They will turn around and say that withholding tolerance ffor homosexuals is a good thing. Sort of how the Patriot act isn't called the "Government searching through everyone's private information act" or "No Child left behind" isn't "throw a couple bucks at a few public schools to make us look good."

If you think this is anti-Rightwing biased..... the Democrats aren't doing anything to fight it. They have become the great doormat party. They let the christian right walk all over us, trouncing our free speach and tolerance with fake bible quotes (all while ignoring the poor and sick, which as I got out of the bible, helping them in the name of God is the only thing they WON'T do)

PBS will have to become something funded totally by private parties or (shock) air commercials if they want to stay alive.

you are illinformed and a bigot

the real reason this is a issue today is that the left leaning prograoms of NPR and PBS are Wrong PBS has rules in there bylaws that state the shall not endoirse or support any side and should telecast bothsides of the issue.
a demorcatic seneter form my state is on our side he believes this to be true that it is left leaning which is fine with me ( A Card carriny young Republican buyt the fact that you rant and rave about stuuf you know nothing about sickens me you are sore that Bush beat a lifeless Kerry has nothing to do with this

thank you and good day sir
 

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Hear is a letter i received today from my PBS Station NJN


Dear NJN Member Peter J. Nehra,



PROPOSED REDUCTIONS IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR

PUBLIC TELEVISION AND RADIO

TOTAL ABOUT 45 PERCENT FOR FY 06 !



These cuts will have a significant impact on public television and radio stations’ ability to provide educational, informational, and history and cultural programming to our communities in New Jersey and in local communities throughout the nation.



Please Call Your Members of Congress to Express Your Support For Public Broadcasting!



ASK THEM TO:



· Support action to restore level funding for public broadcasting.



· Oppose the $100 million rescission of funds to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.



· Oppose the elimination of the highly successful Ready To Learn Program (Sesame Street, Between the Lions, and other award-winning children’s programs plus early literacy workshops for preschoolers, parents and teachers).



· Oppose the elimination of the highly successful PTFP program that supports stations’ digital infrastructure.



· Oppose the elimination of funding for the digital conversion program – a federal mandate.



· Oppose the elimination of funding for the satellite interconnection program for programming distribution to local stations.



The full House of Representatives is scheduled to begin debating the final bill and any amendments to it on Thursday, June 23.



Now is the time for public broadcasting to make our final push to secure a victory in the House. Representatives David Obey (WI) and Nita Lowey (NY) intend to offer an amendment to the Labor-HHS appropriations bill on June 23, when the full House considers it. The Obey-Lowey amendment will seek to restore some or all of the 45 percent cuts to public broadcasting for FY 2006.



FIND OUT WHERE YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS STAND ON THE

OBEY-LOWEY AMENDMENT .



Get your Members of Congress to commit to you that they will support this amendment or other legislative remedies to provide level funding for all public broadcasting programs.





When you call, establish which way your House members will vote:



____ Yes ____ Leaning Yes ____ No ____Leaning No ____Undecided



Also call New Jersey Senators to convey your support for “level funding,” and contact the Chairman and/or Ranking members of the key subcommittees and full committees. Contact information is attached.



Please make these calls ASAP and please let us know the results of your calls. Contact Ronnie Weyl, Vice President of Public Affairs, NJN Foundation, at 609-777-5062 or rweyl@njn.org.



LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!
 

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IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE MAD THE APPROVED a 800 MILLION DOLLOR BUDGET TO SUBISIDIZE BIG OIL OIL JUST WENT UP TO $60 A BARREL YESTERDAY
JUST TIO "GREASE" EVER 363 MEMEBER OF THE sENETE AND THE HOUSE WHO GET MONEY TO RUN FROM BIG OIL


WE KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTAINT TO THEM IT'S TIME BIG BIRD AND LAVAR BURTON START "GREASING" THE POLITICANS? LOLOLOLLOLLOLLOLL
 

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Kenneth Tomlinson, the chairman of the board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, has said on several occasions that the Bush administration does not interfere with how the CPB operates.

On several matters over the past year, however, the chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has pursued policies and the appointment of executives at the behest of the White House, according to Tomlinson's own e-mails.

NPR obtained these e-mails from a CPB official who is unhappy with Tomlinson's leadership there. The official insisted on anonymity, citing fears of job retaliation.

One instance involved an initiative of Montana Sen. Conrad Burns, a Republican. Burns sought to give public television and radio stations more say in naming board members of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The board has nine slots. The members are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. Only five can belong to the president's party.

The stations strongly backed the measure. But Tomlinson didn't. Last July 21, he made that clear in an e-mail he wrote to Kathleen Cox. She became CPB's CEO and president last summer but was forced out in April.

Tomlinson wrote: "The White House has issued guidance. WH officially opposed to the Burns amendment."

Politics and Credibility

John Lawson, the president of the Association of Public Television Stations, an advocacy group for PBS stations, says he's worked well with Tomlinson in the past. But he says Tomlinson has undermined the strength of the public broadcasting world.

"Ken has politicized this institution at a very vulnerable time," Lawson said in an interview.

The House of Representatives is expected to vote on a spending bill late this week that would cut CPB's budget next year by a quarter -- or $100 million. Tomlinson has said he expects most of those funds to be restored by the Senate.

Lawson said the problem isn't that the White House is playing politics -- it's that Tomlinson is contorting the core mission of the CPB. "The CPB is supposed to be a heat shield, and yet we've been dragged into one of the worst and most damaging controversies in our history," he said.

The CPB provides federal subsidies for NPR and PBS member stations and some of their programs.

Under the law, the CPB board is charged with protecting public broadcasting from political pressure. Its mandate also includes ensuring that news coverage is balanced.

Through a spokesman, Tomlinson declined to comment on the details of this story. But some critics and supporters say any CPB chairman must be acutely aware of the political forces affecting public broadcasting.

The Chairman's Agenda

Tomlinson is a Republican who was first appointed to the CPB board by President Clinton. He was reappointed by President Bush and became chairman in 2003.

Since becoming chairman, Tomlinson has moved to address what he contends is the left-leaning lineup of news programs at PBS by advocating the addition of new shows with a conservative outlook. He has pursued ways to monitor NPR's coverage of the Middle East, which he says skews against Israel. And he named two ombudsmen to handle complaints about news coverage by NPR and PBS.

"I certainly want CPB to continue its role as a firewall to protect the journalism of public broadcasting," Tomlinson told NPR in May. "But I also want a common-sense, loose agreement that we're also going to seek a certain degree of balance in our program offerings."

"Let's [reach] agreement on those general terms -- and let's stop the food fight," he said.

In past media interviews, Tomlinson has said the White House does not interfere in the operations of the CPB.

But in e-mails obtained by NPR, Tomlinson repeatedly aided a job candidate that he said arrived with White House backing. At the time, Ed McFadden was the chief speechwriter for John Ashcroft -- then the U.S. attorney general.

On Dec. 7, 2004, Tomlinson wrote Kathleen Cox that he had sent her McFadden's resume so she could interview him for a job as senior vice president for communications. Tomlinson said the Ashcroft aide had "the strong support of the White House."

Two weeks later, Tomlinson emailed Cox from Italy asking for a progress report. Cox wrote that she had other, stronger candidates for the job. She wrote, "McFadden might make a good junior person but does not have experience of others identified. I will talk to him in any event."

Tomlinson's immediate response: "Considering Dina Powell's recommendation, I'm really surprised McFadden did not make the cut. Very surprised, considering the people I've seen in the job."

Dina Powell is the White House director of personnel. McFadden confirmed to NPR that he met with Cox in February. No job was offered, and he now works as an executive for a telecommunications firm.

Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, a liberal media advocacy group, says the public needs to recognize that the CPB operates in a politically charged environment.

"The board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting always has to take in consideration what the White House and the political leaders in Congress are thinking," Chester said. "There's a balancing act."

But Chester said Tomlinson has failed to strike a proper balance by infusing politics into so many decisions at CPB: "I think what Mr. Tomlinson has been doing -- in essence, allowing the White House to help direct plans of the CPB -- is unprecedented."

Changes at the CPB

The board of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is meeting this week to select a new president. One of the prime candidates -- someone championed by Tomlinson -- is Patricia Harrison. She's an assistant U.S. secretary of state. But she's also a former co-chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.

Lawson and other critics say her appointment would be inappropriate because, they say, it would represent a politicization of the position. Three Democratic senators asked Tomlinson to delay naming a new president for CPB. One, Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, called on him to step down.

Prompted by complaints from two House Democrats, the CPB's inspector general is investigating whether Tomlinson's actions constitute political interference. Through a spokesman, Tomlinson says he expects to be vindicated by the inspector general's report.
 
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