Animation Academy Awards Announced

[Boober_Gorg]

Originally posted by Cantus Rock
I am also among those who perfer traditional animation to CGI stuff, and though I didn't really like the style in which the human characters were drawn in L & S, I still think its favorable IMO.

Hear hear, Matt. Traditional animation will never die. Especially with people like me around.

 

[Cantus Rock]

LoL, thanks G-Man. We need more cartoonists @ large in this world...

-Matt

 

[beaker]

Originally posted by Super Scooter
What was Spirited Away like? What's that rated?

1. The most astonishing thing in ages, like a modern Never Ending Story...and IMHO the best darn movie of the year next to Lord of the Rings TTT. Its a crying shame hardly anyone got to see Spirited Away...I have a feeling Spirited Away would be on a lot of people's faves list for 2002 had they gotten to see it.
But, like they did with Princess Mononoke, Disney once again sabotaged the release of this. Poor John Lassetter, he worked his butt off trying to get this to US theatres and faithfully preserving the Japanese version...man. The Mouse can Suck It as far as Im concerned: 2002 had too many screwups by them IMHO.

2. PG

Ice Age was boring as all get out. Sid the sloth was extremely cool and funny...if only JHC could buy the rights and turn him into a Muppet...he'd be the biggest hit since Pepe, heh.

Spirit? Geez...

Treasure Planet? Disney was out promoting this bloated tanker(again, cgi cel syle over substance) when they should have bene promoting Spirited Away.


Now then, Lilo and Stitch was very surprising. Who knew an unorthodoxed quirky film about a Hawaiian American, a black social worker, and an alien koala could be such a cohesive fit?
This was about as far from the Disney formula as Ive seen.

 

[Skeeter Muppet]

But, like they did with Princess Mononoke, Disney once again sabotaged the release of this.

How, exactly, did they sabotage it? I haven't seen the English version of the movie in its entirety, but I have seen clips and trailers. And I was impressed with what I saw. The choice for voice actors for the characters was perfect (and ironically Daviegh Chase, the girl who did the voice for Chihiro, also did the voice of Lilo in Lilo and Stitch).

Whatever mistakes Disney made with Mononoke, they pretty much redeemed themselves for with Spirited Away.


-Kim

 

[beaker]

Originally posted by Skeeter Muppet
How, exactly, did they sabotage it? I haven't seen the English version of the movie in its entirety, but I have seen clips and trailers. And I was impressed with what I saw. The choice for voice actors for the characters was perfect (and ironically Daviegh Chase, the girl who did the voice for Chihiro, also did the voice of Lilo in Lilo and Stitch).

Whatever mistakes Disney made with Mononoke, they pretty much redeemed themselves for with Spirited Away.

Oh no no...I dont mean sabotage as in poor editing/bad voice overs/ruining the overall aspect or translation...I mean sabotaging as in purposefully under promoting...or heck not even promoting it at all. Lassetter, fans, everyone was promised this time around they(Disney) would promote this much more than Princess Mononoke...yet it didnt happen. Disney did nothing to redeem themselves...it was Lassetter(of Pixar) who worked his butt off to assemble a great faithful translation, voice acting, and overall to get the film here. Disney just slapped their name on it.
In 1999 they didnt want any conflict with Tarzan, toy Story 2, or Pokemon box office sales...hence why Princess Mononoke got next to nil promotion or theatre releases. While Spirited Away opened in a couple more theatres than Mononoke did, it was more or less the same Disney backtracking shananigans. Its politics in the company.

So yeah, if disney had just kept their word, so many more families, kids, and everyone could have been treated to this great epic film. Sadly, they would much rather promote tepid garbage like Country Bears or Treasure Island.

 

[frogboy4]

I enjoyed Ice Age, but don't think it's an Oscar Calibur film. I do think it's either that or Spirited Away. Haven't seen that yet. I didn't really enjoy Lilo & Stitch or Spirit Stallion of the Cimeron. I still haven't seen Treasure Planet, but was not very impressed by the trailer.

I hope Sprirted Away reaches DVD so I can see it before the awards. I really hope I find it better than Ice Age because this year's crop of animated picures isn't very impressive so far. Just think if Monsters Inc had been released a month and a half later, there would be no contest.

 

[Drtooth]

I agree that The whole thing comes down to Lilo and Spirited Away. I mean, I still have to see Spirited, but I don't think the others are Oscar worthy.

Ice Age, I did enjoy (especially Sid and Scratt. Johny really redemed himself in that movie, ever since the epic Disaster Super Mario Bros. I could not enjoy anything with him in it for years after!) but it's hardly Oscar worthy. But It's so good that Stuart Little 2 didn't get nominated. (it should, however be nominated by the Razzie people)

TP was just too much like a cheap Titan AE Wannabe, and Spirit the horse... I dunno, it's just not my kinda movie.

 

[CousinLuke]

I actually enjoyed Treasure Planet. I thought the animation was amazing. But I liked Lilo and Stich better. To bad neither will get the two disc versions they deserve.

 

[Ol' Buddy Bert]

Well, I guess my feeling that "Ice Age" would win the best picture is based on Shrek's win last year as well as the fact that CG animation has all the attention these days.

I thought it was truly unfortunate that Shrek won last year as I thought Monster's Inc. was far superior in animation and technique. I also felt that Monster's Inc. will stand the test of time for better than Shrek will. Each time I have seen Shrek I grew progessively less enchanted with the film and eventually was put off by its jadedness. It just seems that the academy will succumb to whatever has been the most popular when it comes to their awards from animated features.

Anyway, if you want to see great traditional hand drawn animation forget Spirit or Lilo and Stich...I'm telling you watch "Spirited Away"! Mr. Miyazki is known for his perfectionism with each cell of animation...it's just absolutely beautiful. Plus, Spirited Away boasts a far more interesting and rewarding of a story than any of the other films.

 

[CousinLuke]

I thought it was truly unfortunate that Shrek won last year as I thought Monster's Inc. was far superior in animation and technique. I also felt that Monster's Inc. will stand the test of time for better than Shrek will. Each time I have seen Shrek I grew progessively less enchanted with the film and eventually was put off by its jadedness. It just seems that the academy will succumb to whatever has been the most popular when it comes to their awards from animated features.

I tend to feel the same way when I watch Shrek. I think Pixar knew their film was better also. In last years acadamey awards, remember the not-so-happy expressions on Mike and Sulley's faces when the applauded Shrek.