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I'm assuming that that 9:00 you're talking about is in central time, and if so, that would land things at 10:00 Eastern.

HI Dizzyactress! Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy it here.

Maybe I'll just fly around a bit... *commences flying, looking for some activity of note somewhere*

Now what should I do on this fine day? *ponders and paces*

I agree, that's a very nice drawing. As for Big Mean Carl, I haven't really seen a lot of him, but I like what I've seen. I think Drtooth said it best in this thread a few years back, Carl has more Muppetiness to him than most other newer characters do from the MT era and onward.

Not to rain on any parades here, but isn't posting this article in full a bit of a violation to The Times' rights? I mean, they have people pay to be able to get this article, so I feel like posting it is almost taking money away from the times...

This article does look pretty interesting...unfortunately you have to subscribe to The Times to read it, as you said. This is pretty common among companies like this, even many websites make you subscribe and pay for things to read articles.

Exactly. Forgiving and forgetting are not the same thing. When you forgive, you don't completely dismiss the event(s) like they never happened.

See, when I'm talking about "accountable," I'm talking about it being something different than "responsible." Holding someone responsible, in my mind, means that you feel they should still pay the consequences (which I believe they should). Holding someone accountable, in my opinion, isn't that...

I definitely agree that you can't expect forgiveness from anyone. It's hard to forgive, really hard. I like how you say "truly given" because it really is a gift that only some are able to offer. But I do believe that it is worth the while.

And I'm really happy today, because some of the people I know that know that I'm a Muppet fan told me that they were on The Voice last night. :)

I've got 5,213 now...5300 by the end of the night, maybe?

I agree with heralde there, it's not so much not holding someone responsible...they still need to pay the consequences. However, that doesn't mean that you need to hold that thing against them forever. That's an example of forgiveness...still being sad and dissapointed with them, but at the same...

When I saw the previews, I was thinking that they were advertising Christmas at Rockefeller and SNL (which comes on after) at the same time, as part of a block. Therefore, I assumed that the Kermit clip was for Rockefeller rather than SNL. But then when Daffyfan mentioned that above, I second...

I'm confused. Is Kermit on the Rockefeller, SNL, or both?

I dunno, I don't want to turn this into a debate, but personally I believe that the circumstances of forgiveness should be unconditional, and it shouldn't really matter how terrible the crime was. I'm not just speaking this in Kevin's case, but in any case in general. I do know, though, that...

Ah, that would make sense to both. I hadn't thought of that at first. I'm excited for that one. :)

Alrighty...lots of stuff for me to throw in here: I really enjoyed the performance overall by Cee-Lo and Kermit. It was very good and enjoyable. But I'll tell ya, I loved the little things the most. Fozzie's actions were awesome. That facepalm at Kermit's joke, then wiping his tears with his...

I definitely second that. As I said previously, politics, at least to my understanding, was never meant to be the bashing thing it has come out to be today. It should be much more civil, and politicians should be able to run and talk about what they're going to do rather than talk about how the...

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