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Well they're critics; it's not their job to run a fansite. It's their job to give their honest opinion. They can't refrain from giving opinions just because it would hurt an actor's feelings. If all their reviews were all always positive it would just be Stepford.

I think bringing in new characters is often a successful idea. It worked with Tiny Toones and Star Trek: TNG. But it worked because the writing was top notch (Well at least after TNG got past the first season, hehe).

I always said I don't think they meant it as an insult. One of them even said he just wasn't great at building up things. Thing is, historically the Muppets have been portrayed and described as mad, crazy, nuts, in a good way. And that's very different from saying the characters are stupid.

You know what, I don't even find Bayformers that offensive anymore. At least Bay never had any pretensions that he was doing deep work, unlike a lot of comic book movies I can mention, hehe.

Bingo.

Well Terence Stamp always is, I imagine. ;)

If you listen close it sounds like Scooter's singing (butchering?) the "so spaced out" verse of Bennie and the Jets.

I love how Galvatron is referred to as a "new" character, lol. It's 1986 all over again!

The Beatles...everyone else can go home, hehe.

Well technically yes, he's always trying to make people happy. But it's often in the hopes of propping up his career in show biz, hehe.

Annoyingly there are still people who will go to see movies like this, purely out of some strange fan insecurity. Like, "Well it's gonna suck, but I can't NOT see it!"

Love Kermit and Elton's go-fer conversation. Though still unclear as to why Scooter thought Elton would want to hear one of his own songs, lol.

Lol, yeah that's QVC.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention my Mom bought me some Miss Piggy bath products from that QVC special for my birthday. NIce to have some Muppet merchandise in the house again, hehe. My friend also made me her own Muppets card, with Scooter on the cover, lol. Super Grover and a MS group shot were...

Ugh, sorry that happened. Poor planning on someone's part to say the least!

LOL, thanks for the laugh this morning. :halo: There is still strange obsession lately with making movies more "realistic." I don't think it's necessary.

I don't feel like they're phasing Gonzo out in particular, at least no more than the other characters. It's more that the writers seem fine writing for Kermit, Piggy and the new characters (Walter, Constantine), but when it comes to the other supporting characters for some reason they're not as...

I get the feeling when people say they wanted the same emotion as TM it's just another way of saying they didn't identify with the characters and their plight this time.

Well on the contrary, I'm sure their intention was to get some extra credit with international audiences. I'm surprised they didn't stop in China, lol.

Just want to make it clear, MMW definitely didn't need to be all sappy for me to like it, lol. MCC was pretty sappy and that never grabbed me. GMC was probably the least sentimental of the original films and I love that. Like I said for me I just thought MMW's plot didn't reach high enough for a...