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sometimes it really does all come together. bravo jive puppet!! i agree with your statement of muppet fans being open minded. all of this talk about banning certain adult movies, wanting to stop a topic because they are tired of seeing it, oh and lets not forget about the evil, evil snoop dog...

Re: Snoop Doggy Dog (The Degenerate) i wasn't talking about sleaze, i was asking you about you definition of degrading. if you need to, please re-read my post.

alright, who let pat robertson in?

oh and i did.thanks for the support.

so whos gonna jump on the pro snoop bandwagon now?

first of all matt i don't know where you got the impression that i said there were no good hip hop artists. i was just stating that snoop was a higher profile target for the media to rain thier ever-wonderful c%@p upon. and as for abolishing all porn, i think i'm going to pop in a few of my...

everyone has different values. i will gladly take sex on video before killing, cheating or lying.......man that sounds weird when i read it back, oh well have fun with that comment.

NICE!

...and celine dion still has a career

why is everyone so uptight about porno? i mean they are doing a job(no pun intended) and getting paid,nicely i might add. if you don't like it don't watch it. same goes for the muppet christmas special, if you are determined to make a statement about snoop don't watch the show.

animal also helps out on a great version of danny boy.

patty e decided because snoop is so degrading and immoral that one board was obviously not enough.

but the thing is, how do you know that these other hip hop artists are morally acceptable? is it because they are not popular enough for the media to want to pick any of their closets clean? probably a blessing for them. being morally acceptable is a fine line to draw. i believe i stated this...

again patty i will ask the question. is it degrading or disrespecting someone by paying them to do a job(i.e. a mtv or porno video) when the payee is saying yes to all of it and smiling all the way to the bank?

jamie, i also thought we were done with all of this. i was even hesitating answering back but i couldn't stand it any more.

thats great news! i can't wait to tell my wife. she got me into ab fab.

exactly thog. and by the way i love your avatar. have you seen the muppet mock up shirt of ab fab with janice and piggy?

another question i have for patty e ,what is your defintion of degrading? is it we will pay you x amount of money to be in a video(x or mtv approved) and you can either say yes or no, i would say it is in the hands of the person getting paid. i believe you can only degrade yourself.

thog, i totally agree with you. i mentioned these same things earlier in a thread about past performers who had worked with the muppets. maybe snoop is just too threatening.

o.k. than never watch the mt episode with cindy crawford because she was in playboy several times and there are still some people who consider that porno.