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Agreed. I used to come here regularly back in 2014ish, but mostly drifted away for many reasons. Regardless, this is a great forum and I love posting here.

But he said he should have fired him in the mid 90's. If it were a minor problem, he wouldn't have minded. I still find it fishy that after all this time, it took until now for him to fire Steve I honestly "felt" like it was real for a good minute.

Weird. It still airs constantly on my station. Seems to be the only "classic" Pbs kids show airing aside from SS and Arthur.

I got to watching The Muppets 2011 today, and it's still great. I mostly managed to not think about the behind-the-scenes turmoil and thoroughly enjoyed the film. And frankly, while I'm super sad for Steve, I'm so happy how everyone is back on this forum (at least temporarily). This forum was...

It really sucks that they dropped the classic episodes. Anyways, it's still prominent on my station, so I don't think it's coming to an end. Even if it does, they'll still probably air reruns forever a la Clifford the big red dog. Seriously, that show hasn't made a new episode in 14 years and...

YES! This is exactly why I can't take Brian's words seriously. If it were the mid-90s and Steve was being a terrible, horrible person who was ruining the muppets and was an awful performer, why not replace him? It had only been a couple years, the internet wasn't around. How many people would...

After tons of flip-flopping, I feel like I'm still siding with Steve on this. Disney wanted to shut him up and make him say he retired, but he decided to tell his story. I respect that.

I think you just answered your own question. If you didn't pay much attention to the puppeteers, it wouldn't matter much. I read Jim's bio and learned a lot about Steve and I almost felt like I was alongside them. I always imagined that the performers and everyone got along harmoniously, so it's...

I also don't think we should blindly support anyone with the henson last name. And I'm pretty sure mostly everyone is in full support of Matt.

Ya, I don't think he really performed with Steve outside of MCC. Maybe that's part of the reason why he left the muppets.

I'm sure Frank wasn't happy with Steve performing Kermit or Ernie, but he still ended up doing it throughout the 90's, so he probably still respects him.

I could understand Jerry being frustrated. He never really got a main character on the muppet show.

Man that was a sad, but great, read. Jim was such an amazing guy.

I think I'll stay away from the 90s-present muppet stuff for a while. Like @rexcrk, I feel a little uneasy thinking about what might have been going on backstage. This is all just so sad. I really want to hear from Dave and Bill (and maybe even Frank) but I know that's not going to happen. Just...

"Henson granted an in-depth interview of his own in order to explain what actually happened from his perspective, even going as far to say that he should've let Whitmire go before selling the company to Disney in 2004. "I have to say, in hindsight, I feel pretty guilty that I burdened Disney by...

I can understand what Lisa & Brian said about Steve, even if they didn't like him, at least they were professional about it. But Cheryl's statement on facebook still shocks me. I always imagined everyone in the muppet world as one big family. Guess I was foolish to think that.

I was scared of The Count but I also remember him being my favorite SS muppet.

I don't think I've come here daily in a while. It is great, even if what we're discussing isn't.

The more I think about it, it's just super sad that the Henson Family loath Steve like that. One would think that they would be super close. Guess that's not the case.

Completly agree. They gave them up and that was their decision. They have no say in anything.