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  1. Muppet Master

    Arthur - Where is the Show Going?

    It really sucks that they dropped the classic episodes. Anyways, it's still prominent on my station, so I don't think it's coming to an end. Even if it does, they'll still probably air reruns forever a la Clifford the big red dog. Seriously, that show hasn't made a new episode in 14 years and...
  2. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    YES! This is exactly why I can't take Brian's words seriously. If it were the mid-90s and Steve was being a terrible, horrible person who was ruining the muppets and was an awful performer, why not replace him? It had only been a couple years, the internet wasn't around. How many people would...
  3. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    After tons of flip-flopping, I feel like I'm still siding with Steve on this. Disney wanted to shut him up and make him say he retired, but he decided to tell his story. I respect that.
  4. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I think you just answered your own question. If you didn't pay much attention to the puppeteers, it wouldn't matter much. I read Jim's bio and learned a lot about Steve and I almost felt like I was alongside them. I always imagined that the performers and everyone got along harmoniously, so it's...
  5. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I also don't think we should blindly support anyone with the henson last name. And I'm pretty sure mostly everyone is in full support of Matt.
  6. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Ya, I don't think he really performed with Steve outside of MCC. Maybe that's part of the reason why he left the muppets.
  7. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I'm sure Frank wasn't happy with Steve performing Kermit or Ernie, but he still ended up doing it throughout the 90's, so he probably still respects him.
  8. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I could understand Jerry being frustrated. He never really got a main character on the muppet show.
  9. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Man that was a sad, but great, read. Jim was such an amazing guy.
  10. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I think I'll stay away from the 90s-present muppet stuff for a while. Like @rexcrk, I feel a little uneasy thinking about what might have been going on backstage. This is all just so sad. I really want to hear from Dave and Bill (and maybe even Frank) but I know that's not going to happen. Just...
  11. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    "Henson granted an in-depth interview of his own in order to explain what actually happened from his perspective, even going as far to say that he should've let Whitmire go before selling the company to Disney in 2004. "I have to say, in hindsight, I feel pretty guilty that I burdened Disney by...
  12. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I can understand what Lisa & Brian said about Steve, even if they didn't like him, at least they were professional about it. But Cheryl's statement on facebook still shocks me. I always imagined everyone in the muppet world as one big family. Guess I was foolish to think that.
  13. Muppet Master

    What Muppets scared you as a child?

    I was scared of The Count but I also remember him being my favorite SS muppet.
  14. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    I don't think I've come here daily in a while. It is great, even if what we're discussing isn't.
  15. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    The more I think about it, it's just super sad that the Henson Family loath Steve like that. One would think that they would be super close. Guess that's not the case.
  16. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Completly agree. They gave them up and that was their decision. They have no say in anything.
  17. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    What I'm wondering is when he started to give notes about how to rewrite stuff. Surely, he had to have done it for trash like MWoO.
  18. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Agreed. I want to hear Dave Goelz's input. He's worked with him the longest and is likely his closest companion.
  19. Muppet Master

    Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

    Ugh, I don't know what to think anymore. At first, I was really sad for Steve, but then his kids come in and start bashing him. I feel like at the end of the day, Steve meant well though.
  20. Muppet Master

    Video: Steve Whitmire and Lisa Henson on Inside Edition

    My respect for Cheryl Henson has gone from 100 to 0 in the span of like 5 hours. To post hurtful comments is one thing, but to then delete them and pretend you never posted them is worse. Just wow.
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