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    Another Jim Hill Muppet rant

    3. He was desperately pitching a different show to CBS than the one we got. (Remember, this was still a year or two before Saturday Night Live, and there was literally nothing out there to break the Muppets' Ed Sullivan/Sesame image...) The references to "producer George Schlatter" point...
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    Character Debuts

    Dimly remember Maria's days as a new arrival from Puerto Rico, but can't recall whether I saw the actual debut. Only debut I can recall was cracking up over Telly's "Today, we're going to meet the famous writer Flo Bear..."
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    Ideas for single-disc Fraggle Rock DVD content

    (Darn, you had to go steal my "Idea #3: Wipe them off the planet, now that they've served their one earthly purpose and the boxsets are out" response...Okay, so my timing was off!) :smirk:
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    if Muppets Tonight had succedded...

    How about "The Kermit equivalent of all those other Bob Newhart sitcoms CBS tried to make without the same writers"? (And that's being polite, ie. as opposed to "90 Weasel-era Disney using their latest purchase to make a land grab for more NBC territory without understanding what they'd...
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    any download sites

    How about the idea of getting some vintage Noggin/Unpaved episodes up onto BitTorrent, while we're getting technical?
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    if JHH had succedded...

    Well, one thing we DO know is that the Disney Channel would've gone ahead with airing "Muppet High School" anyway. But I'm sorry, I'm interrupting your post about what creative things would have happened... :)
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    Favorite episodes

    And leaving the "Bells" seconding aside, no true list can be complete without "Secret Society of Poo-Bah's"-- In an already silly series, that one was just...out there. :excited:
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    Episode trading?

    Since it was buried at the end of another thread, thought I'd repeat the question in its own space: With all the numbering and specific episode guides floating around, I assume people are taping Unpaved reruns off of Noggin, etc. (which I can't)-- Any traders out there able to share vintage...
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    "Swashbuckle", "Mumford changes Maria's age sketch

    And call me new at this, but just where is everyone trading vintage episodes, if that's where all the detailed info is coming from?-- I'm Noggin-impaired in my cable area (which I understand at this point is a good thing), but wouldn't mind seeing a couple of these episodes again, whose...
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    Did Filmation do anything for SS?

    They also produced their own "Superman" cartoon in the early-early-70's: "S...for Superman!"
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    If Doc couldn't see Fraggles, why was Uncle Matt so easily visible?

    ...Umm, no. :smirk: I just assumed the obvious comic face-value-- Doc's just too disorganized to notice anything past his workbench, and the communications-impaired Sprocket would forever be frustrated in trying to get his intruder-alert across: "My brain must be getting fragile--"...
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    Favorite Animal Films

    I was going to say the one with the polar bear sloshing in his pool to a dogged old park-bandstand French horn of "Beside the Seaside", but...thanks for the memory-jogger. (And yes, "There's a Bird on Me" has been duly noted.) :)
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    Favorite Kermit Moments

    And, although it may have been mentioned already: - Grover: "Sir, I am a plumber! Are you telling me how to...plumb?" Kermit: "Well, you can plumb any way you want--" - (And then, of course, the letter B, "which sorta looks like a fat man with his belt too tight"...) - "They told...
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    MFS-disappointment!

    Actually, as noted earlier, MFS was: 1) Like "Christmas Carol" and "Oz", a trotting-out by the new corporate owners (in this case, Sony and the German BFS), who wanted to play with their new purchase immediately upon ownership, and convinced themselves that the public would rush to see...
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    Jump the Shark-Muppets

    (And FTR, Fonzie water-skiied over the shark...Hence the term.)
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    Worst TMS guest stars

    I'll second the "Eek--What were they thinking??" for the "audition" waste of good banjo-era 70's-Steve-- At one point, you can even hear the offstage har-har crew making fun of the Swedish Chef's Chef-ese during a sketch....How un-Muppet can you get?? :o But anyway--It's hard to...
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    The Muppets... The Future is Cloudy

    Actually, Paul Williams returning after thirteen years was one of the few bright spots of "Muppet Christmas Carol"-- Face it, his songs just SOUND like Kermit wrote them. :)
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    The Muppets... The Future is Cloudy

    Actually, according to JimHillMedia.com, 1) Although it got fair ratings for showing up, ABC's already written "Oz" off as a disaster, and Disney is depending on coattailing audience interest in the TMS DVD's for their last bit of respectability, 2) Owning the Muppets was Eisner's own...
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    Are these Muppets or puppets still around?

    Actually, Kermit (Jim-era) gave us the answer to that one: In the Linda Lavin(?) TMS episode, where the gang stages a "This Is Your Life" for Kermit's birthday, they bring back W&W after two years, who proceed to launch a major guilt trip on their host ("We've been keeping busy, ever since...
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    Muppetisms

    If you mean the Hallmark Channel (back when it actually was the Brian Henson-Robert Halmi owned Odyssey Channel, and not PAX Lite), yes. Selling Muppet recognition between programs was their other biggest bit of name-franchise outreach in the first few days, apart from rerunning "Gulliver's...
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